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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

    No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

    But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

    Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

    So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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    Marika@home
    wrote last edited by
    #36

    @cstross thanks for pointing it out that clearly. I went through several articles yesterday to find out why the hell someone would think putting a data center in space would be beneficial.

    And the only argument every journalist was citing besides "Sam Altman said it in a podcast" was 24/7 solar power, independent of weather. Which is not true for most lower orbits (earth's shadow), and still doesn't solve cooling, too little power, limited up/down link and maintenance problems.

    So that it's just bullshit to sound futuristic to the dumbest of the dumbest makes a lot of sense.

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

      No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

      But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

      Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

      So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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      Didthat
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      #37

      @cstross
      Elon is a nazi want a be his ties with trump and epstien is why these ppl are not to be supported

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      • Kid ManiaC Kid Mania

        @mkoek @kthy @cstross
        Yep.

        He fucks with Tesla investors the same way.

        "Robo-taxis" anyone?
        He first brought them up in 2016.

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        Kristian Thy
        wrote last edited by
        #38

        @clintruin @mkoek @cstross here's one of my favourite Wikipedia pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk

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        • Kristian ThyK Kristian Thy

          @clintruin @mkoek @cstross here's one of my favourite Wikipedia pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk

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          Kid Mania
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          #39

          @kthy @mkoek @cstross
          😂
          Ex-act-ly.

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

            No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

            But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

            Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

            So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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            Lucien
            wrote last edited by
            #40

            @cstross Starlink might be the only thing one of his companies got right. I've been using one for a while now and it's a game changer when living somewhere remote. I wish we had a suitable EU competitor and not have to contribute to this man's lunacy...

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

              No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

              But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

              Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

              So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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              Su_G
              wrote last edited by
              #41

              @cstross
              Yes… said it in 5 words: “salesman's bullshit, lies for fools”.
              #elonMusk

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                Toni Aittoniemi
                wrote last edited by
                #42

                @cstross Data centers on orbit is the stupidest idea ever.

                Perhaps even more stupid than letting a remote LLM control your personal computer 🤦‍♂️

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                  No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                  But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                  Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                  So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                  GhostOnTheHalfShell
                  wrote last edited by
                  #43

                  @cstross

                  Consider for a moment, though that the real money available to the stock market is with the very largest institutions and the wealthiest people basically Elon Musk‘s class.

                  People with too much money and nothing else to do with it

                  You can bet they will also manipulate the federal government into just handing them cash supposedly to do all this crazy stuff kinda like all the money that’s flooding into starship that completely ignores contracted objectives

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                  • Mathias HasselmannT Mathias Hasselmann

                    @cstross Just another reckless person collecting stupid money by selling them snake oil.

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                    DeterioratedStucco
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                    #44

                    @taschenorakel
                    Problem is, money is fungible.

                    @cstross

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                      @cstross
                      I'm so excited that pedo musk is finally heading to Mars this year. He can use the epstein list as his exclusive passenger list.

                      "SpaceX will start launching Starships to Mars in 2026, Elon Musk says"

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                      Brian Gordon
                      wrote last edited by
                      #45

                      @NMBA @cstross

                      Tell me he did not say this. It's like Elon's playing a game to see what he can get away with. Like a child might when testing boundaries. Oh wait, narcissists actually have the emotional maturity of a child...

                      "SpaceX will start launching Starships to Mars in 2026, Elon Musk says"

                      #narcissism #musk #spacex

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                        No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                        But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                        Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                        So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                        Cress
                        wrote last edited by
                        #46

                        @cstross Totally agree, also just imagine the many scenarios that will eventually hit constellations like this - e.g. the company goes out of business or they lose device control, organisation gets a viral or c&c trojan, systems operational issues (like bad patch rollout) for example

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                          No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                          But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                          Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                          So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                          S. LottS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          S. Lott
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                          #47

                          @cstross Did he read Singularity Sky and feel he could make that future happen with more computers everywhere?

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                          • Fazal MajidF Fazal Majid

                            @gbargoud @cstross @tony it takes a special kind of creepy to weird even Epstein out.

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                            @fazalmajid Well, that, probably, but also "power broker".

                            The Epstein files function to identify the de facto real power structure. (As he saw it, but considering how long he kept what running, he can't have been too far off.)

                            (It also identifies the help and the wannabes.)

                            @gbargoud @cstross @tony

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                              No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                              But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                              Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                              So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                              Lightfighter
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                              @cstross But it's great hype for AI bros and TESCREAL cretins.

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                Feral Fire
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                                @cstross isn't Starship becoming less and less useful as they keep 'iterating' it's development?

                                That giant cargo capacity keeps on dropping.

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                                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                  Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                  No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                  But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                  Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                  So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                                  Oliver SchafeldO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Oliver Schafeld
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #51

                                  Here's a fine blog about what appears to be Musk's latest SpaceX hoax by an actual physics and astronomy professor:

                                  The Dumbest Thing I’ve Seen This Week — physicsmatt

                                  Given that it is 2025, the dumbest thing I’ve seen this week is some stiff competition, but “AI datacenters in space” is some impressive idiocy. I’ve seen a few breathless media reports on how AI companies are planning to launch entire datacenters into space. Some of these articles point to a single H100 GPU that was used to train a LLM while in orbit. Obviously, humanity has the capacity to launch a single GPU into orbit, and small LLMs can be trained on an H100. However, that’s a far cry from a datacenter, and so it is somewhat surprising that this is being hyped by companies who are selling the idea of massive datacenters in orbit.

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                                  »The only reason to launch a shitload of GPUs into orbit is to say you did it, because they sure as hell aren’t going to add meaningful capacity to the datacenters on Earth, will cost far more, and would have short usable lifespans. […] So why are a bunch of techbros and their pet journalists hyping this?«

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                    No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                    But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                    Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                    So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                                    Graeme 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿P This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Graeme 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #52

                                    @cstross Not to mention it probably arrived as a ketamine induced hallucination.
                                    Or maybe grok predicted it.
                                    He possibly even believes it himself, he's so full of it, it's hard to tell.

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                                    • Oliver SchafeldO Oliver Schafeld

                                      Here's a fine blog about what appears to be Musk's latest SpaceX hoax by an actual physics and astronomy professor:

                                      The Dumbest Thing I’ve Seen This Week — physicsmatt

                                      Given that it is 2025, the dumbest thing I’ve seen this week is some stiff competition, but “AI datacenters in space” is some impressive idiocy. I’ve seen a few breathless media reports on how AI companies are planning to launch entire datacenters into space. Some of these articles point to a single H100 GPU that was used to train a LLM while in orbit. Obviously, humanity has the capacity to launch a single GPU into orbit, and small LLMs can be trained on an H100. However, that’s a far cry from a datacenter, and so it is somewhat surprising that this is being hyped by companies who are selling the idea of massive datacenters in orbit.

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                                      physicsmatt (www.physicsmatt.com)

                                      »The only reason to launch a shitload of GPUs into orbit is to say you did it, because they sure as hell aren’t going to add meaningful capacity to the datacenters on Earth, will cost far more, and would have short usable lifespans. […] So why are a bunch of techbros and their pet journalists hyping this?«

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                                      Oliver Schafeld
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                                      Hier ein Blog auf Deutsch, das diesen KI-Satelliten Gigaquatsch sachlich zerlegt.

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                                      Musks KI-Rechenzentren im Orbit

                                      Bei meinem regelmäßigen Besuch des Space Reviews stieß ich auf diesen Artikel: SpaceX, orbital data centers, and the journey to Mars. Ich hatte in meiner Nachlese schon erwähnt das Elon Musk, nachd…

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                                      Bernd Leitenbergers Blog (www.bernd-leitenberger.de)

                                      »Meiner Ansicht nach macht dieser kuriose Vorschlag nur einen Sinn: Kunden für Starlink und Falcons zu beschaffen. 1 Million Satelliten erfordern weit über 100.000 Falcon 9 Starts […] Es muss schlecht um Starlink stehen, wenn es solche Vorschläge von Musk gibt…«

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                        No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                        But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                        Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                        So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                        Allpoints
                                        wrote last edited by
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                                        @cstross the thing is, the big money knows it's BS or, at least, doesn't care if it's BS. They'll get in early, ride the hype wave and then try to cash out before it all falls apart.

                                        "The stock markets are a way for everyone to participate in owning a company and promote growth." Is nonsense. The markets have become casinos and are disconnected from the economy.

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                          No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                          But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                          Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                          So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                          Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈
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                                          @cstross I remember when he claimed his rocket would be on Mars by 2025 and everyone who doesn't know about Space believed him because he's nothing more than a huckster, selling Science Fiction as fact and Journalism not bothering to look beyond the hype.

                                          This man, who was SO keen to visit the Paedo Island....

                                          #ElonMusk #Space #SpaceX #Hustlers #Grifters #ClanOfPaedophiles

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