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  • Cadbury MooseC Cadbury Moose

    @ASprinkleofSage @cstross

    Ratshit, then.

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    Chris
    wrote last edited by
    #29

    @Cadbury_Moose @cstross I mean, once it's rotted down, bullshit is actually useful. Not so sure about ratshit but possibly so. Maybe radioactive waste is more appropriate? it does ruin a good idiom though.

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      @dubiousblur Remember he owns massive battery factories. However, China more or less has a monopoly on PV panel manufacturing.

      fedops πŸ’™πŸ’›F This user is from outside of this forum
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      fedops πŸ’™πŸ’›
      wrote last edited by
      #30

      @cstross with outdated technology because they failed on the 4680 cells, and with now canceled supply contracts:

      Link Preview Image
      Tesla’s 4680 battery supply chain collapses as partner writes down deal by 99%

      A major link in Tesla’s 4680 battery supply chain has just snapped. South Korean battery material supplier L&F Co. announced...

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      Electrek (electrek.co)

      Apparently they are using up surplus 4680s in model ys now:

      Just a moment...

      favicon

      (www.autoevolution.com)

      @dubiousblur

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

        No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

        But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

        Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

        So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

        Attorney Pat WeberP This user is from outside of this forum
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        Attorney Pat Weber
        wrote last edited by
        #31

        @cstross Wild ideas β‰  prospectus

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        • George BG George B

          @cstross @tony

          Don't know about you but I have not stopped talking about him begging to go to pedo Island (and it seems being rejected the majority of the time)

          Fazal MajidF This user is from outside of this forum
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          Fazal Majid
          wrote last edited by
          #32

          @gbargoud @cstross @tony it takes a special kind of creepy to weird even Epstein out.

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          • Mark KoekM Mark Koek

            @kthy @cstross and that, infuriating as it is, works

            Kid ManiaC This user is from outside of this forum
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            Kid Mania
            wrote last edited by
            #33

            @mkoek @kthy @cstross
            Yep.

            He fucks with Tesla investors the same way.

            "Robo-taxis" anyone?
            He first brought them up in 2016.

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

              No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

              But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

              Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

              So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

              Fazal MajidF This user is from outside of this forum
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              Fazal Majid
              wrote last edited by
              #34

              @cstross won't Kessler Syndrome make space launch dead as a business long before that?

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              • fedops πŸ’™πŸ’›F fedops πŸ’™πŸ’›

                @cstross with outdated technology because they failed on the 4680 cells, and with now canceled supply contracts:

                Link Preview Image
                Tesla’s 4680 battery supply chain collapses as partner writes down deal by 99%

                A major link in Tesla’s 4680 battery supply chain has just snapped. South Korean battery material supplier L&F Co. announced...

                favicon

                Electrek (electrek.co)

                Apparently they are using up surplus 4680s in model ys now:

                Just a moment...

                favicon

                (www.autoevolution.com)

                @dubiousblur

                BashStKidB This user is from outside of this forum
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                BashStKid
                wrote last edited by
                #35

                @fedops @cstross @dubiousblur That is interesting.

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                  No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                  But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                  Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                  So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                  Marika@homeH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Marika@home
                  wrote last edited by
                  #36

                  @cstross thanks for pointing it out that clearly. I went through several articles yesterday to find out why the hell someone would think putting a data center in space would be beneficial.

                  And the only argument every journalist was citing besides "Sam Altman said it in a podcast" was 24/7 solar power, independent of weather. Which is not true for most lower orbits (earth's shadow), and still doesn't solve cooling, too little power, limited up/down link and maintenance problems.

                  So that it's just bullshit to sound futuristic to the dumbest of the dumbest makes a lot of sense.

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                    No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                    But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                    Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                    So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                    Didthat
                    wrote last edited by
                    #37

                    @cstross
                    Elon is a nazi want a be his ties with trump and epstien is why these ppl are not to be supported

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                    • Kid ManiaC Kid Mania

                      @mkoek @kthy @cstross
                      Yep.

                      He fucks with Tesla investors the same way.

                      "Robo-taxis" anyone?
                      He first brought them up in 2016.

                      Kristian ThyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Kristian Thy
                      wrote last edited by
                      #38

                      @clintruin @mkoek @cstross here's one of my favourite Wikipedia pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk

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                      • Kristian ThyK Kristian Thy

                        @clintruin @mkoek @cstross here's one of my favourite Wikipedia pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk

                        Kid ManiaC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Kid Mania
                        wrote last edited by
                        #39

                        @kthy @mkoek @cstross
                        πŸ˜‚
                        Ex-act-ly.

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                          No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                          But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                          Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                          So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                          LucienL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Lucien
                          wrote last edited by
                          #40

                          @cstross Starlink might be the only thing one of his companies got right. I've been using one for a while now and it's a game changer when living somewhere remote. I wish we had a suitable EU competitor and not have to contribute to this man's lunacy...

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                            No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                            But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                            Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                            So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                            Su_GS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Su_G
                            wrote last edited by
                            #41

                            @cstross
                            Yes… said it in 5 words: β€œsalesman's bullshit, lies for fools”.
                            #elonMusk

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                              No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                              But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                              Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                              So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                              Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Toni Aittoniemi
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                              #42

                              @cstross Data centers on orbit is the stupidest idea ever.

                              Perhaps even more stupid than letting a remote LLM control your personal computer πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                GhostOnTheHalfShell
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                                #43

                                @cstross

                                Consider for a moment, though that the real money available to the stock market is with the very largest institutions and the wealthiest people basically Elon Muskβ€˜s class.

                                People with too much money and nothing else to do with it

                                You can bet they will also manipulate the federal government into just handing them cash supposedly to do all this crazy stuff kinda like all the money that’s flooding into starship that completely ignores contracted objectives

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                                • Mathias HasselmannT Mathias Hasselmann

                                  @cstross Just another reckless person collecting stupid money by selling them snake oil.

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                                  DeterioratedStucco
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                                  #44

                                  @taschenorakel
                                  Problem is, money is fungible.

                                  @cstross

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                                    @cstross
                                    I'm so excited that pedo musk is finally heading to Mars this year. He can use the epstein list as his exclusive passenger list.

                                    "SpaceX will start launching Starships to Mars in 2026, Elon Musk says"

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                                    Brian Gordon
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                                    @NMBA @cstross

                                    Tell me he did not say this. It's like Elon's playing a game to see what he can get away with. Like a child might when testing boundaries. Oh wait, narcissists actually have the emotional maturity of a child...

                                    "SpaceX will start launching Starships to Mars in 2026, Elon Musk says"

                                    #narcissism #musk #spacex

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                      No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                      But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                      Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                      So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                      Cress
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                                      #46

                                      @cstross Totally agree, also just imagine the many scenarios that will eventually hit constellations like this - e.g. the company goes out of business or they lose device control, organisation gets a viral or c&c trojan, systems operational issues (like bad patch rollout) for example

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                        No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                        But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                        Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                        So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                        S. Lott
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                                        #47

                                        @cstross Did he read Singularity Sky and feel he could make that future happen with more computers everywhere?

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                                        • Fazal MajidF Fazal Majid

                                          @gbargoud @cstross @tony it takes a special kind of creepy to weird even Epstein out.

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                                          #48

                                          @fazalmajid Well, that, probably, but also "power broker".

                                          The Epstein files function to identify the de facto real power structure. (As he saw it, but considering how long he kept what running, he can't have been too far off.)

                                          (It also identifies the help and the wannabes.)

                                          @gbargoud @cstross @tony

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