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  • Mark KoekM Mark Koek

    @kthy @cstross and that, infuriating as it is, works

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    Kid Mania
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    #33

    @mkoek @kthy @cstross
    Yep.

    He fucks with Tesla investors the same way.

    "Robo-taxis" anyone?
    He first brought them up in 2016.

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

      No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

      But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

      Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

      So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

      Fazal MajidF This user is from outside of this forum
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      Fazal Majid
      wrote last edited by
      #34

      @cstross won't Kessler Syndrome make space launch dead as a business long before that?

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      • fedops 💙💛F fedops 💙💛

        @cstross with outdated technology because they failed on the 4680 cells, and with now canceled supply contracts:

        Link Preview Image
        Tesla’s 4680 battery supply chain collapses as partner writes down deal by 99%

        A major link in Tesla’s 4680 battery supply chain has just snapped. South Korean battery material supplier L&F Co. announced...

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        Electrek (electrek.co)

        Apparently they are using up surplus 4680s in model ys now:

        Just a moment...

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        (www.autoevolution.com)

        @dubiousblur

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        wrote last edited by
        #35

        @fedops @cstross @dubiousblur That is interesting.

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

          No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

          But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

          Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

          So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

          Marika@homeH This user is from outside of this forum
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          Marika@home
          wrote last edited by
          #36

          @cstross thanks for pointing it out that clearly. I went through several articles yesterday to find out why the hell someone would think putting a data center in space would be beneficial.

          And the only argument every journalist was citing besides "Sam Altman said it in a podcast" was 24/7 solar power, independent of weather. Which is not true for most lower orbits (earth's shadow), and still doesn't solve cooling, too little power, limited up/down link and maintenance problems.

          So that it's just bullshit to sound futuristic to the dumbest of the dumbest makes a lot of sense.

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

            No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

            But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

            Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

            So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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            Didthat
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            #37

            @cstross
            Elon is a nazi want a be his ties with trump and epstien is why these ppl are not to be supported

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            • Kid ManiaC Kid Mania

              @mkoek @kthy @cstross
              Yep.

              He fucks with Tesla investors the same way.

              "Robo-taxis" anyone?
              He first brought them up in 2016.

              Kristian ThyK This user is from outside of this forum
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              Kristian Thy
              wrote last edited by
              #38

              @clintruin @mkoek @cstross here's one of my favourite Wikipedia pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk

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              • Kristian ThyK Kristian Thy

                @clintruin @mkoek @cstross here's one of my favourite Wikipedia pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk

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                Kid Mania
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                #39

                @kthy @mkoek @cstross
                😂
                Ex-act-ly.

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                  No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                  But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                  Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                  So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                  LucienL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Lucien
                  wrote last edited by
                  #40

                  @cstross Starlink might be the only thing one of his companies got right. I've been using one for a while now and it's a game changer when living somewhere remote. I wish we had a suitable EU competitor and not have to contribute to this man's lunacy...

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                    No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                    But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                    Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                    So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                    Su_G
                    wrote last edited by
                    #41

                    @cstross
                    Yes… said it in 5 words: “salesman's bullshit, lies for fools”.
                    #elonMusk

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                      No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                      But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                      Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                      So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                      Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Toni Aittoniemi
                      wrote last edited by
                      #42

                      @cstross Data centers on orbit is the stupidest idea ever.

                      Perhaps even more stupid than letting a remote LLM control your personal computer 🤦‍♂️

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                        No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                        But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                        Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                        So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                        GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        GhostOnTheHalfShell
                        wrote last edited by
                        #43

                        @cstross

                        Consider for a moment, though that the real money available to the stock market is with the very largest institutions and the wealthiest people basically Elon Musk‘s class.

                        People with too much money and nothing else to do with it

                        You can bet they will also manipulate the federal government into just handing them cash supposedly to do all this crazy stuff kinda like all the money that’s flooding into starship that completely ignores contracted objectives

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                        • Mathias HasselmannT Mathias Hasselmann

                          @cstross Just another reckless person collecting stupid money by selling them snake oil.

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                          DeterioratedStucco
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                          @taschenorakel
                          Problem is, money is fungible.

                          @cstross

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                            @cstross
                            I'm so excited that pedo musk is finally heading to Mars this year. He can use the epstein list as his exclusive passenger list.

                            "SpaceX will start launching Starships to Mars in 2026, Elon Musk says"

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                            Brian Gordon
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                            @NMBA @cstross

                            Tell me he did not say this. It's like Elon's playing a game to see what he can get away with. Like a child might when testing boundaries. Oh wait, narcissists actually have the emotional maturity of a child...

                            "SpaceX will start launching Starships to Mars in 2026, Elon Musk says"

                            #narcissism #musk #spacex

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                              No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                              But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                              Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                              So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                              Cress
                              wrote last edited by
                              #46

                              @cstross Totally agree, also just imagine the many scenarios that will eventually hit constellations like this - e.g. the company goes out of business or they lose device control, organisation gets a viral or c&c trojan, systems operational issues (like bad patch rollout) for example

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                S. Lott
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                                #47

                                @cstross Did he read Singularity Sky and feel he could make that future happen with more computers everywhere?

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                                • Fazal MajidF Fazal Majid

                                  @gbargoud @cstross @tony it takes a special kind of creepy to weird even Epstein out.

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                                  Graydon
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                                  @fazalmajid Well, that, probably, but also "power broker".

                                  The Epstein files function to identify the de facto real power structure. (As he saw it, but considering how long he kept what running, he can't have been too far off.)

                                  (It also identifies the help and the wannabes.)

                                  @gbargoud @cstross @tony

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                    No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                    But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                    Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                    So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                                    LightfighterL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Lightfighter
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #49

                                    @cstross But it's great hype for AI bros and TESCREAL cretins.

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                      No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                      But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                      Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                      So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                      Feral Fire
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #50

                                      @cstross isn't Starship becoming less and less useful as they keep 'iterating' it's development?

                                      That giant cargo capacity keeps on dropping.

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                        No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                        But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                        Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                        So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                                        Oliver SchafeldO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Oliver Schafeld
                                        wrote last edited by
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                                        Here's a fine blog about what appears to be Musk's latest SpaceX hoax by an actual physics and astronomy professor:

                                        The Dumbest Thing I’ve Seen This Week — physicsmatt

                                        Given that it is 2025, the dumbest thing I’ve seen this week is some stiff competition, but “AI datacenters in space” is some impressive idiocy. I’ve seen a few breathless media reports on how AI companies are planning to launch entire datacenters into space. Some of these articles point to a single H100 GPU that was used to train a LLM while in orbit. Obviously, humanity has the capacity to launch a single GPU into orbit, and small LLMs can be trained on an H100. However, that’s a far cry from a datacenter, and so it is somewhat surprising that this is being hyped by companies who are selling the idea of massive datacenters in orbit.

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                                        physicsmatt (www.physicsmatt.com)

                                        »The only reason to launch a shitload of GPUs into orbit is to say you did it, because they sure as hell aren’t going to add meaningful capacity to the datacenters on Earth, will cost far more, and would have short usable lifespans. […] So why are a bunch of techbros and their pet journalists hyping this?«

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                          No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                          But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                          Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                          So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                                          Graeme 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿P This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Graeme 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #52

                                          @cstross Not to mention it probably arrived as a ketamine induced hallucination.
                                          Or maybe grok predicted it.
                                          He possibly even believes it himself, he's so full of it, it's hard to tell.

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