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❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞

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  • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

    ❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞

    Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.

    ❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞

    🧵

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    ‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks

    Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’

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    Killa KoalaD This user is from outside of this forum
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    @inthehands
    "Incentive structures work. So you have to be very careful of what you incent people to do, because various incentive structures create all sorts of consequences that you can't anticipate." — Steve Jobs

    Except of course that in this case the consequences were obvious and easy to anticipate.

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    • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

      ❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞

      Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.

      ❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞

      🧵

      Link Preview Image
      ‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks

      Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’

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      Mark Wyner Won’t Comply :vm:M This user is from outside of this forum
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      Mark Wyner Won’t Comply :vm:
      wrote last edited by
      #26

      @inthehands

      Enforcement ≠ bounty hunter

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      • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

        ❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞

        Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.

        ❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞

        🧵

        Link Preview Image
        ‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks

        Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’

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        JeffandthekidT This user is from outside of this forum
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        @inthehands NEVER AGAIN, NEVER!

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        • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

          Here in Minneapolis it’s been widespread common knowledge that ICE agents are getting paid per head they bring in, no matter how incorrectly, no matter the actual immigration status of the person they kidnapped, no matter how carelessly or violently they do it.

          It’s nice to see this confirmed in print.

          Taran RampersadK This user is from outside of this forum
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          @inthehands I really wish we stopped using the term 'heads'.

          It depersonalizes humans. ICE is already doing that.

          They are people.

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          • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

            ❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞

            Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.

            ❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞

            🧵

            Link Preview Image
            ‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks

            Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’

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            decapitaeD This user is from outside of this forum
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            @inthehands GESTAPO, plain and simple

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            • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

              Here in Minneapolis it’s been widespread common knowledge that ICE agents are getting paid per head they bring in, no matter how incorrectly, no matter the actual immigration status of the person they kidnapped, no matter how carelessly or violently they do it.

              It’s nice to see this confirmed in print.

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              #30

              @inthehands They probably also get a kickback from the private prison companies for each profit unit they hand over.

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              • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                ❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞

                Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.

                ❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞

                🧵

                Link Preview Image
                ‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks

                Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’

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                RenéM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #31

                @inthehands #bountyhunters

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                • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                  ❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞

                  Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.

                  ❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞

                  🧵

                  Link Preview Image
                  ‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks

                  Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’

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                  @inthehands

                  You might have said that it doesn't matter who ICE goons detain, they get a bonus for each head, whether it's from a peacenik, citizen, legal observer, EMT, Green Card holder, immigrant worker, mayor, congresscritter, or drug lord.

                  It's all the same to an ICE goon who gets a bonus per head, as if the people they detained were American buffalo or Native Americans c. 1860.

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                  • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                    ❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞

                    Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.

                    ❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞

                    🧵

                    Link Preview Image
                    ‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks

                    Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’

                    favicon

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                    YayaverY This user is from outside of this forum
                    YayaverY This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #33

                    @inthehands

                    Let me narrate you Cobra Effect:

                    The Problem: During the British Raj, the government was concerned about the high number of venomous cobras in Delhi.

                    The Incentive: To reduce the population, officials offered a cash reward for every dead cobra brought to them.

                    The Backfire: Entrepreneurial residents began breeding cobras specifically to kill them and claim the reward.

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                    • YayaverY Yayaver

                      @inthehands

                      Let me narrate you Cobra Effect:

                      The Problem: During the British Raj, the government was concerned about the high number of venomous cobras in Delhi.

                      The Incentive: To reduce the population, officials offered a cash reward for every dead cobra brought to them.

                      The Backfire: Entrepreneurial residents began breeding cobras specifically to kill them and claim the reward.

                      YayaverY This user is from outside of this forum
                      YayaverY This user is from outside of this forum
                      Yayaver
                      wrote last edited by
                      #34

                      @inthehands

                      The Outcome: When authorities discovered the breeding scheme, they terminated the reward program. Consequently, the breeders released their worthless snakes into the city, increasing the total cobra population.

                      The "Cobra Effect" now represents any situation where an incentive designed to solve a problem actually makes it worse.

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