❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞
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Perverse incentives create perverse outcomes.
@jackwilliambell @inthehands this is intentional, not some cartoon boss' mistake.
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@jackwilliambell @inthehands this is intentional, not some cartoon boss' mistake.
Of course. Sometimes the outcomes are entirely intentional. And sometimes they are unexpected side-effects. And sometimes you even get both for the same incentive.
Here you had perverse incentives intentionally applied by perverse people. Worst of all worlds.
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❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞
Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.
❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞
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‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks
Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
@inthehands So a bounty on literally anyone in the USA. That would never cause any problems would it? Wow…
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You know the classic story of the foolish employer who paid software developers per bug fixed? If you haven’t, you can guess the outcome: program called off when one developer “fixed“ hundreds of bugs in a single day (that they’d intentionally introduced).
This is just like that, except not like it at all: the “fake bugs” — ICE agents abducting random people to make a buck — are the •intended• effect.
@inthehands And feral boars in Texas. Once there was a market for hunters, some ranchers started breeding them.
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❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞
Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.
❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞
🧵
‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks
Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
The comparison to the Slave Patrols grows ever more apt.
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❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞
Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.
❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞
🧵
‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks
Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
780 men and boys, all of them Muslim, have been imprisoned over time at Guantánamo since January 2002.
86 percent were sold to the United States during a time when the U.S. military was offering large bounties for capture; commonly, $5,000 was offered per man.
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❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞
Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.
❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞
🧵
‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks
Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
@inthehands So they are bounty hunters. Fuckwads.
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❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞
Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.
❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞
🧵
‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks
Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
@inthehands
"Incentive structures work. So you have to be very careful of what you incent people to do, because various incentive structures create all sorts of consequences that you can't anticipate." — Steve JobsExcept of course that in this case the consequences were obvious and easy to anticipate.
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❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞
Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.
❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞
🧵
‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks
Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
Enforcement ≠ bounty hunter
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❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞
Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.
❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞
🧵
‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks
Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
@inthehands NEVER AGAIN, NEVER!
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Here in Minneapolis it’s been widespread common knowledge that ICE agents are getting paid per head they bring in, no matter how incorrectly, no matter the actual immigration status of the person they kidnapped, no matter how carelessly or violently they do it.
It’s nice to see this confirmed in print.
@inthehands I really wish we stopped using the term 'heads'.
It depersonalizes humans. ICE is already doing that.
They are people.
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❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞
Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.
❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞
🧵
‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks
Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
@inthehands GESTAPO, plain and simple
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Here in Minneapolis it’s been widespread common knowledge that ICE agents are getting paid per head they bring in, no matter how incorrectly, no matter the actual immigration status of the person they kidnapped, no matter how carelessly or violently they do it.
It’s nice to see this confirmed in print.
@inthehands They probably also get a kickback from the private prison companies for each profit unit they hand over.
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❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞
Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.
❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞
🧵
‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks
Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
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❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞
Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.
❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞
🧵
‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks
Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
You might have said that it doesn't matter who ICE goons detain, they get a bonus for each head, whether it's from a peacenik, citizen, legal observer, EMT, Green Card holder, immigrant worker, mayor, congresscritter, or drug lord.
It's all the same to an ICE goon who gets a bonus per head, as if the people they detained were American buffalo or Native Americans c. 1860.
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❝ICE officers are paid a bonus every time they detain someone.❞
Read that. Reread that. Internalize it. Map that back to every story you’ve heard of ICE agents going off the rails, every random kidnapping, every brutal and stupid ICE story.
❝“Individual ICE agents get money per head that they detain – the guards told me that.”❞
🧵
‘Don’t go to the US – not with Trump in charge’: the UK tourist with a valid visa detained by ICE for six weeks
Karen Newton was in America on the trip of a lifetime when she was shackled, transported and held for weeks on end. With tourism to the US under increasing strain, she says, ‘If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone’
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
Let me narrate you Cobra Effect:
The Problem: During the British Raj, the government was concerned about the high number of venomous cobras in Delhi.
The Incentive: To reduce the population, officials offered a cash reward for every dead cobra brought to them.
The Backfire: Entrepreneurial residents began breeding cobras specifically to kill them and claim the reward.
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Let me narrate you Cobra Effect:
The Problem: During the British Raj, the government was concerned about the high number of venomous cobras in Delhi.
The Incentive: To reduce the population, officials offered a cash reward for every dead cobra brought to them.
The Backfire: Entrepreneurial residents began breeding cobras specifically to kill them and claim the reward.
The Outcome: When authorities discovered the breeding scheme, they terminated the reward program. Consequently, the breeders released their worthless snakes into the city, increasing the total cobra population.
The "Cobra Effect" now represents any situation where an incentive designed to solve a problem actually makes it worse.
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