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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

    No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

    But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

    Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

    So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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    #25

    @cstross
    I'm so excited that pedo musk is finally heading to Mars this year. He can use the epstein list as his exclusive passenger list.

    "SpaceX will start launching Starships to Mars in 2026, Elon Musk says"

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

      No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

      But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

      Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

      So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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      wrote last edited by
      #26

      @cstross Investors don’t need to be gullible to buy SpaceX shares. They only need to believe that some gullible fools down the line will buy their shares at a higher price.

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

        No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

        But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

        Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

        So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

        Harkonnen2H This user is from outside of this forum
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        Harkonnen2
        wrote last edited by
        #27

        The problem here is that both Elon and investors (as whole financial sector) is currently trapped in the myth of Eternal Growth. They are so trapped in this world where everything must grow, even growth must grow, that they don't see when they cross the barrier of telling themselves fairytales and having ideas that are physically impossible to realize. I'm not sure if this is gullibilty or if they really believe that the growth will never stop or maybe even fear because if they stop doing this, the REAL wold says "I call" and their world will fall apart...

        @cstross

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        • UilebheistU Uilebheist

          @cstross I wouldn't put it past him to actually believe his own bullshit though.
          He'd be "Yes, it breaks a law, big deal, we have lots of lawyers", without actually knowing that no, lawyers can't argue against physics.

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          wrote last edited by
          #28

          @Uilebheist @cstross

          (Some) lawyers can (and will, if paid enough) argue against physics, but their chance of winning (other than the money you're paying them) is less than infinitesimal. (They're hoping they will be paid more than they get sanctioned for.)

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          • Cadbury MooseC Cadbury Moose

            @ASprinkleofSage @cstross

            Ratshit, then.

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            wrote last edited by
            #29

            @Cadbury_Moose @cstross I mean, once it's rotted down, bullshit is actually useful. Not so sure about ratshit but possibly so. Maybe radioactive waste is more appropriate? it does ruin a good idiom though.

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              @dubiousblur Remember he owns massive battery factories. However, China more or less has a monopoly on PV panel manufacturing.

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              wrote last edited by
              #30

              @cstross with outdated technology because they failed on the 4680 cells, and with now canceled supply contracts:

              Link Preview Image
              Tesla’s 4680 battery supply chain collapses as partner writes down deal by 99%

              A major link in Tesla’s 4680 battery supply chain has just snapped. South Korean battery material supplier L&F Co. announced...

              favicon

              Electrek (electrek.co)

              Apparently they are using up surplus 4680s in model ys now:

              Just a moment...

              favicon

              (www.autoevolution.com)

              @dubiousblur

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                Attorney Pat Weber
                wrote last edited by
                #31

                @cstross Wild ideas β‰  prospectus

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                • George BG George B

                  @cstross @tony

                  Don't know about you but I have not stopped talking about him begging to go to pedo Island (and it seems being rejected the majority of the time)

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                  #32

                  @gbargoud @cstross @tony it takes a special kind of creepy to weird even Epstein out.

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                  • Mark KoekM Mark Koek

                    @kthy @cstross and that, infuriating as it is, works

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                    Kid Mania
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                    #33

                    @mkoek @kthy @cstross
                    Yep.

                    He fucks with Tesla investors the same way.

                    "Robo-taxis" anyone?
                    He first brought them up in 2016.

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                      No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                      But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                      Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                      So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                      Fazal MajidF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #34

                      @cstross won't Kessler Syndrome make space launch dead as a business long before that?

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                      • fedops πŸ’™πŸ’›F fedops πŸ’™πŸ’›

                        @cstross with outdated technology because they failed on the 4680 cells, and with now canceled supply contracts:

                        Link Preview Image
                        Tesla’s 4680 battery supply chain collapses as partner writes down deal by 99%

                        A major link in Tesla’s 4680 battery supply chain has just snapped. South Korean battery material supplier L&F Co. announced...

                        favicon

                        Electrek (electrek.co)

                        Apparently they are using up surplus 4680s in model ys now:

                        Just a moment...

                        favicon

                        (www.autoevolution.com)

                        @dubiousblur

                        BashStKidB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #35

                        @fedops @cstross @dubiousblur That is interesting.

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                          No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                          But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                          Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                          So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                          Marika@homeH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Marika@home
                          wrote last edited by
                          #36

                          @cstross thanks for pointing it out that clearly. I went through several articles yesterday to find out why the hell someone would think putting a data center in space would be beneficial.

                          And the only argument every journalist was citing besides "Sam Altman said it in a podcast" was 24/7 solar power, independent of weather. Which is not true for most lower orbits (earth's shadow), and still doesn't solve cooling, too little power, limited up/down link and maintenance problems.

                          So that it's just bullshit to sound futuristic to the dumbest of the dumbest makes a lot of sense.

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                            No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                            But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                            Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                            So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                            Didthat
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                            #37

                            @cstross
                            Elon is a nazi want a be his ties with trump and epstien is why these ppl are not to be supported

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                            • Kid ManiaC Kid Mania

                              @mkoek @kthy @cstross
                              Yep.

                              He fucks with Tesla investors the same way.

                              "Robo-taxis" anyone?
                              He first brought them up in 2016.

                              Kristian ThyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Kristian Thy
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                              #38

                              @clintruin @mkoek @cstross here's one of my favourite Wikipedia pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk

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                              • Kristian ThyK Kristian Thy

                                @clintruin @mkoek @cstross here's one of my favourite Wikipedia pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_predictions_for_autonomous_Tesla_vehicles_by_Elon_Musk

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                                Kid Mania
                                wrote last edited by
                                #39

                                @kthy @mkoek @cstross
                                πŸ˜‚
                                Ex-act-ly.

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                                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                  Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                  No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                  But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                  Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                  So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                  Lucien
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #40

                                  @cstross Starlink might be the only thing one of his companies got right. I've been using one for a while now and it's a game changer when living somewhere remote. I wish we had a suitable EU competitor and not have to contribute to this man's lunacy...

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                    No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                    But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                    Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                    So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                    Su_G
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #41

                                    @cstross
                                    Yes… said it in 5 words: β€œsalesman's bullshit, lies for fools”.
                                    #elonMusk

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                      No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                      But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                      Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                      So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

                                      Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Toni Aittoniemi
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #42

                                      @cstross Data centers on orbit is the stupidest idea ever.

                                      Perhaps even more stupid than letting a remote LLM control your personal computer πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        Because a LOT of people are missing the point:

                                        No, Elon Musk is NOT serious about putting a million data centres into orbit. It can't work: laws of physics say "nope".

                                        But SpaceX is expected to go public this year.

                                        Elon is talking up his company's future prospects in front of gullible investors because he needs a growth narrative beyond Starlink, which is already priced in. Something to justify the Starship proram beyond NASA's lunar ambitions.

                                        So it's salesman's bullshit, lies for fools.

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                                        GhostOnTheHalfShell
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #43

                                        @cstross

                                        Consider for a moment, though that the real money available to the stock market is with the very largest institutions and the wealthiest people basically Elon Muskβ€˜s class.

                                        People with too much money and nothing else to do with it

                                        You can bet they will also manipulate the federal government into just handing them cash supposedly to do all this crazy stuff kinda like all the money that’s flooding into starship that completely ignores contracted objectives

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                                        • Mathias HasselmannT Mathias Hasselmann

                                          @cstross Just another reckless person collecting stupid money by selling them snake oil.

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                                          DeterioratedStucco
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                                          #44

                                          @taschenorakel
                                          Problem is, money is fungible.

                                          @cstross

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