I just replaced that exact card in my machine last week in preparation for dual booting Linux for the first time (I needed a new NVME as a Linux drive and figured I’d future-proof my setup at the same time with an RX 9070 XT for the native AMD drivers), and the only games that I hadn’t been able to run on medium-high settings had been unoptimized games, bad ports, and early access stuff like Monster Hunter: Wilds and Cities Skylines 2.

IMO 8 gigs is plenty for the average person, all things considered.

Fascinating. Is that how the ps5 and Xbox whatever work?

Which is totally fine. Not every game has to support older hardware. Games are allowed to use “newer” tech.

Worth noting that I played Indy at 1600p/60 on an RTX 2080, which is a card from 2018 that I bought used for 200 bucks two years ago. This card can still run every single game out there and most of them extremely well, despite only having 8 GB of VRAM.

The whole debate is way overblown. This doesn’t mean that there aren’t games that could run a whole lot better, but overall, PC gamers with old hardware are still eating good.

Gaming laptops are notorious for dying from overheating. These things need to be meticulously maintained if you want to use them for their intended purpose for long.

It would be funny if Steam sold it lower in other countries, and gave the US a special inflated tarrif cost.

I think you just have poor reading comprehension bc I literally said it uses amd?

Interesting, thanks for confirming!

Valve has incentive on getting developers to make games that will play on lower speced hardware. Also, not everyone cares to pay premium prices for premium specs.

It will do just fine and it should accomplish Valves goals.

They are expanding their “steam deck verified” system to cover the Steam Machine and Steam Frame. I have to assume that they will attempt to make that distinction, because I agree, there should be a Steam Frame Platinum (for streaming) and Steam Frame Silver (for on device) or something.

I do hope they take this into account.

It’ll be a mistake if they just put the tag of 500 dollars on the steam store.

It’ll be much much better if they put a fake price like, 1500 dollars but it’s discounted to 500.

People are dumb enough to fall for that, lol

The PS5 has 4K native support since it has better hardware to go along with its bigger size. It also support 4K AI upscaling from 1080, so in some cases it’s the same, although likely with more FPS. The XBox is probably more of the same.

Lol with multiple gaming PCs, you are far far removed from the target consumer. Im pretty sure it will be cheap. Unlike PC hardware manufacturers they can do what the console companies do and price at/below cost and make it up in game sales.

Depends on the price point. Obviously, it’s not going to be competitive with a $2K gaming rig. But if the price is right, I might get GabeCubes for my kiddos as their first “desktop” computers. They should run CachyOS flawlessly, since it’s also Arch based, so it will work great as a desktop computer and a gaming rig.

My midrange computer from 3 years ago should outperform it, I would hope. If not, then it’ll be priced out from what I’d consider buying.

It needs to be cheap.

However, when comparing to the power of locked up device such as ps5, it never hurts reminds that the supposed GPU processing power of a ps5 doesn’t come for free… even if you’ve fully paid your console. Aside for demos or jailbreaked devices (piracy on console) the only way to run graphics at full potential on the locked ps5 is paying full AAA (which now is settling around 80$/€) for EACH product. There are alternatives in the spending (ie: the Netflix alike from Sony’s store)… but those are only options that Sony allow you to (you can’t run weekly free games from EGS, itch.io… or even web browser games!).

Whatever power you pay for any generic PC potentially cover you in any way: you can play arcade vector games as Asteroid at 4k (or even teorical 32K when the hardware will exists).

The difference Valve could make is showing the topical console gamer customer an easy to use access to it: once they’ll see the light… things may go different also for console-only customers (Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo wouldn’t want to lose more customers to Valve’s better deal)

Also while employing FSR3, which requires cooperation from the game.

Well, if you are adding my 15yo Core2Quad in the percentage, of course those numbers come easy.

When I was a child and first saw a 3d game, I imagined the lighting to be done by ray-tracing (without the actual name of it, of course).
Until then, I only knew 2d games with no lighting mechanics and just a bunch of pixels for sprites.

It doesn’t read to me like they think it’s impressive. It reads to me like they they are clarifying their market.

A challenge will be how many laptop PC users who game on it because that’s all they have/can afford can be converted into steam machine buyers.

Exactly. The price needs to be roughly on par with consoles. A bit higher due to massively the reduced cost of games on PC, maybe.

I’d reckon anything above $700€ makes this whole thing dead in the water.

They should just sell at a loss the steam games bought will make up for it. Every consol does that, why not this mini pc.