We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community.
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@Gargron why not matrix?
@lefteristrip23 @Gargron I’m just guessing, but maybe because they’re a small team that needs a solution and not another service to manage and maintain? Sometimes you just want a no-friction service that won’t add extra load on your employees. But that’s me speculating. There could be a way different but completely justified reason. These are smart people, and I trust they know what they’re doing.
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@waystation Why would you need to do that? You don’t have to use Discord even now, it is optional.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092
We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…
I don't understand why all centralized services suddenly insist on actually verifying their users' age for real. What was wrong with asking for a birth date or even just presenting a "yes I'm 18 or older" button? NSFW websites somehow still do just fine with that, but Discord, which is much less "risky" in comparison, somehow needs real verification?
Gosh I miss the old internet.
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@Gargron I don't use discord. I never even visit the Patreon. I just didn't know if Patreon is becoming an unsafe space.
@waystation We have a Discord for people who support us on Patreon. We’re planning to move from Discord to Zulip for that purpose instead.
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@lefteristrip23 @Gargron I’m just guessing, but maybe because they’re a small team that needs a solution and not another service to manage and maintain? Sometimes you just want a no-friction service that won’t add extra load on your employees. But that’s me speculating. There could be a way different but completely justified reason. These are smart people, and I trust they know what they’re doing.
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@waystation We have a Discord for people who support us on Patreon. We’re planning to move from Discord to Zulip for that purpose instead.
@Gargron Ah, I misread. My apologies. I've been under the weather since last night.
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@waystation Why would you need to do that? You don’t have to use Discord even now, it is optional.
@Gargron @waystation Rather stupidly, a lot of software support and wiki's are now contained only on Discord, which has been a stupid move to be clear. Even purely social communities for almost anything host on Discord now.
The internet is a lonelier place for all the social interactivity it has hoovered up.
Time will tell if Discord have pointed both barrels at their feet and pulled the trigger... But nobody seems happy with the decision.
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@lefteristrip23 @Gargron Even if it was, and it will be a mature platform one day, you always need someone to take care of it. It’s the same with everything you install on a server. And sometimes, you’re not eager to do that.
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092
We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…
Make sure you use a different account name if you submit yourself to 1984 dystopia, so you screw up facial recognition subversion.
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@targrus @Gargron Same. Also, thanks to this Discord affair, I learned about Stoat (formerly Revolt) https://stoat.chat
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092
We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…
@Gargron Thank you for the move and for talking about this publicly!
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RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092
We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…
@Gargron Never heard of that one..
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@lutindiscret @Gargron Well maybe they didn't want to manage another Fedi service. So they chose a different option.
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I don't understand why all centralized services suddenly insist on actually verifying their users' age for real. What was wrong with asking for a birth date or even just presenting a "yes I'm 18 or older" button? NSFW websites somehow still do just fine with that, but Discord, which is much less "risky" in comparison, somehow needs real verification?
Gosh I miss the old internet.
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@Gargron Never heard of that one..
zulip is excellent. good software and seems like a good group of folks at the company.
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zulip is excellent. good software and seems like a good group of folks at the company.
@waltbaldwin @Gargron Tnx. With the @DutchWhovianCommunity there is a Discord server for the community, so I'm curious what the impact of the changes is going to be there.
But, also for other security and privacy reasons it most likely be a good thing to move away from Discord. But then, a large part of the community is also still mainly on Failbook and Instagram.
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@Gargron don't forget us IRC folks have been working to reach feature parity with discord the whole time that people have been moving away from it
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@Gargron don't forget us IRC folks have been working to reach feature parity with discord the whole time that people have been moving away from it
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weed stallman Eugen Rochko https://ircv3.net/ has some good information, but to name a few i don’t think many people know about:
- persistent history (now integrated into several ircds and most clients)
- seamless image/file upload from the app
- multi-line and -paragraph messages
- utf-8
- typing indicators
- proper replies
- emoji reactions
- in-app registration
- account profile pictures / descriptions / display names
