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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

    Notes for Americans:

    1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

    2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

    3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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    @cstross @nomenloony maybe the AI enjoys listening to Hawkwind who had this on the back cover of their PXR5 album?

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

      Neo EhproqueE This user is from outside of this forum
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      @cstross

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      • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

        @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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        Dan O'GinnecD This user is from outside of this forum
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        @Sie @nygl @cstross

        This is what you get if you use a very old Generative AI:

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        George BG Splendid AlexS Chuckles ❤️🏳️‍⚧️🇺🇦❤️C 3 Replies Last reply
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        • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

          @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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          Volker StolzF This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Sie @nygl @cstross Fun fact: the Europeeans are now all extinct due to electrocution (eelectrocution? eleectrocution?!).

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

            Notes for Americans:

            1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

            2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

            3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

            Albert HickeyW This user is from outside of this forum
            Albert HickeyW This user is from outside of this forum
            Albert Hickey
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            #112

            @cstross

            Copilot just now with prompt.
            show me a picture to explain how to wire a UK plug

            Interested in the Earth being a 4th pin and the Earth pin having a live (coloured) wire going to it.
            Also, a screw labelled as LIVE is concerning.

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            • Dan O'GinnecD Dan O'Ginnec

              @Sie @nygl @cstross

              This is what you get if you use a very old Generative AI:

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              George BG This user is from outside of this forum
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              @Sie @nygl @cstross @DanKen

              I do miss how janky the outputs were for those

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                Stephen J HenstridgeH This user is from outside of this forum
                Stephen J HenstridgeH This user is from outside of this forum
                Stephen J Henstridge
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                @cstross Look carefully - designed by M.C. Escher

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                  Notes for Americans:

                  1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                  2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                  3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                  ChristopherD This user is from outside of this forum
                  ChristopherD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #115

                  @cstross When people used to list life skills they thought should be taught in schools rather than academic subjects, how to wire a plug was a popular choice. So also was how to balance a chequebook.

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                  • MauriceB Maurice

                    @tautology @ssilvonen @cstross I feel I need to here more of the tales of Ackroyd, prithee, tell us what are the best things in life?

                    tautologyT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #116

                    @barnesmaurice @ssilvonen @cstross Food, beer, a warm sheep and companions. Wait, 'OW MUCH! Nah, tha can all bugger off and leave me t'misen.

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                    • Albert HickeyW Albert Hickey

                      @cstross

                      Copilot just now with prompt.
                      show me a picture to explain how to wire a UK plug

                      Interested in the Earth being a 4th pin and the Earth pin having a live (coloured) wire going to it.
                      Also, a screw labelled as LIVE is concerning.

                      Albert HickeyW This user is from outside of this forum
                      Albert HickeyW This user is from outside of this forum
                      Albert Hickey
                      wrote last edited by
                      #117

                      @cstross

                      Tried asking how to use a chainsaw and Copilot refused.
                      So, chainsaw dangerous wiring a plug is OK.

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                      • MH ThaungM MH Thaung

                        @cstross Seems it would save time just to stick your fingers directly into the socket, no?

                        Stephen J HenstridgeH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @mhthaung @cstross I expect ChatGPT has instructions for that

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                        • James 🌈💜S James 🌈💜

                          @oddhack @cstross

                          Don't worry, your bank will do it for you.

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                          (www.macquarie.com.au)

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                          @shaknais @oddhack @cstross I wonder if they’ll be happy to accept liability for any advice given when it inevitably goes disastrously wrong. There is a weak disclaimer at the bottom of the page. “You should always check your official statements before making product or other financial decisions.”

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                          • ChristopherD Christopher

                            @cstross When people used to list life skills they thought should be taught in schools rather than academic subjects, how to wire a plug was a popular choice. So also was how to balance a chequebook.

                            Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @dearlove Also how to correctly address a letter (both on the envelope and in writing the contents). Reading a clock face and tying your shoelaces was supposed to be covered before primary school, though (by parents or kindergarten).

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                            • tautologyT tautology

                              @cstross I do these threads every so often. My most recent one was on my Bluesky where I got four LLMs to draw maps progressively getting more zoomed in (the World, Europe, UK, Yorkshire, York).

                              Things got worse each time you zoomed in, sometimes with "memories" from the previous image. My favourite was the attached version of Yorkshire.

                              I'll do another one in a month or two.

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                              Ratsnake GamesR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @tautology @cstross Scotland was destroyed during the war.

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                              • tautologyT tautology

                                @cstross I do these threads every so often. My most recent one was on my Bluesky where I got four LLMs to draw maps progressively getting more zoomed in (the World, Europe, UK, Yorkshire, York).

                                Things got worse each time you zoomed in, sometimes with "memories" from the previous image. My favourite was the attached version of Yorkshire.

                                I'll do another one in a month or two.

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                                James TweedieM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @cstross @tautology I love the network of rivers that connect and cross all over the place. Let's see who can define the watershed....

                                I assume Scotland has gained ultimate geological independence and is somewhere to the north of RIVRI TEMS (?).

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                                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                  RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                  Notes for Americans:

                                  1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                  2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                  3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                                  Oliver SchönrockO This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Oliver SchönrockO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @cstross omg that's painful to even look at

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                                  • Nigel WadsworthN Nigel Wadsworth

                                    @cstross I just asked Gemini to create one for us in Australia. Might try it later… just not sure…

                                    CadeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @nygl @cstross This is a great idea to keep plugs from being accidentally kicked loose!

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                                    • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                                      @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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                                      Jacobo Da Riva MuñozJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @Sie @nygl @cstross WTF is that???

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                                      • Jacobo Da Riva MuñozJ Jacobo Da Riva Muñoz

                                        @Sie @nygl @cstross WTF is that???

                                        Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Charlie Stross
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                                        @jdrm @Sie @nygl Congratulations, you've discovered the thread about what happens if you ask various LLMs how to correctly wire up different types of mains plug (starting with British ones: all the suggestions are an electrocution hazard) …

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          @jdrm @Sie @nygl Congratulations, you've discovered the thread about what happens if you ask various LLMs how to correctly wire up different types of mains plug (starting with British ones: all the suggestions are an electrocution hazard) …

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                                          Knud Jahnke
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                                          @cstross @jdrm @Sie @nygl

                                          You could have just said: "Congratulations, you've discovered the thread about what happens if you ask various LLMs."

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