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  • tautologyT tautology

    @ssilvonen @cstross Ackroyd the Barbarian wi' 'is warsheep and scout ferret. 'e adjusts his warcap and lights his Woodbine. as 'e descends to cleanse the lands of rogue Lancastrians.

    Wi' his warcry of "Yorkshire, Yorkshire, dust tha want braying"?

    MauriceB This user is from outside of this forum
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    @tautology @ssilvonen @cstross I feel I need to here more of the tales of Ackroyd, prithee, tell us what are the best things in life?

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

      Notes for Americans:

      1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

      2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

      3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

      TC Won't Give In To LiesT This user is from outside of this forum
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      TC Won't Give In To Lies
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      @cstross

      AI 101: never believe any answer AI gives you.

      AI is for entertainment purposes only. It has zero functionality to ensure it's replies are correct. Worse, it is designed to make it's nonsense replies sound as plausible as possible.

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

        Notes for Americans:

        1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

        2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

        3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

        Ross BurtonR This user is from outside of this forum
        Ross BurtonR This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
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        @cstross And of course being a probabilistic bullshit machine, ask again and you get a different diagram. ChatGPT 5.2 just produced this beauty for me.

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        • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

          @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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          Ratsnake GamesR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #106

          @Sie @nygl @cstross No no, this one is for Europeean Schuko Plugs. Completely different thing.

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

            Notes for Americans:

            1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

            2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

            3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

            Mistake not ...Z This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote last edited by
            #107

            @cstross I love those plugs I can open with a screw driver ... those are lifesafers when you want to hook up your solder jobs (mostly high power bench supplies and audio amplifiers with 100-1000 W) had to cut up sooo many perfectly fine cables until I found one where the plug had a screw to open it.

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

              Notes for Americans:

              1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

              2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

              3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

              MikeStokM This user is from outside of this forum
              MikeStokM This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #108

              @cstross @nomenloony maybe the AI enjoys listening to Hawkwind who had this on the back cover of their PXR5 album?

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                Neo EhproqueE This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
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                @cstross

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                • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                  @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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                  Dan O'GinnecD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Dan O'Ginnec
                  wrote last edited by
                  #110

                  @Sie @nygl @cstross

                  This is what you get if you use a very old Generative AI:

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                  George BG Splendid AlexS Chuckles ❤️🏳️‍⚧️🇺🇦❤️C 3 Replies Last reply
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                  • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                    @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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                    Volker StolzF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #111

                    @Sie @nygl @cstross Fun fact: the Europeeans are now all extinct due to electrocution (eelectrocution? eleectrocution?!).

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                      Notes for Americans:

                      1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                      2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                      3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                      Albert HickeyW This user is from outside of this forum
                      Albert HickeyW This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #112

                      @cstross

                      Copilot just now with prompt.
                      show me a picture to explain how to wire a UK plug

                      Interested in the Earth being a 4th pin and the Earth pin having a live (coloured) wire going to it.
                      Also, a screw labelled as LIVE is concerning.

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                      • Dan O'GinnecD Dan O'Ginnec

                        @Sie @nygl @cstross

                        This is what you get if you use a very old Generative AI:

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                        George BG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #113

                        @Sie @nygl @cstross @DanKen

                        I do miss how janky the outputs were for those

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                          Stephen J HenstridgeH This user is from outside of this forum
                          Stephen J HenstridgeH This user is from outside of this forum
                          Stephen J Henstridge
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                          #114

                          @cstross Look carefully - designed by M.C. Escher

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                            Notes for Americans:

                            1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                            2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                            3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                            ChristopherD This user is from outside of this forum
                            ChristopherD This user is from outside of this forum
                            Christopher
                            wrote last edited by
                            #115

                            @cstross When people used to list life skills they thought should be taught in schools rather than academic subjects, how to wire a plug was a popular choice. So also was how to balance a chequebook.

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                            • MauriceB Maurice

                              @tautology @ssilvonen @cstross I feel I need to here more of the tales of Ackroyd, prithee, tell us what are the best things in life?

                              tautologyT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #116

                              @barnesmaurice @ssilvonen @cstross Food, beer, a warm sheep and companions. Wait, 'OW MUCH! Nah, tha can all bugger off and leave me t'misen.

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                              • Albert HickeyW Albert Hickey

                                @cstross

                                Copilot just now with prompt.
                                show me a picture to explain how to wire a UK plug

                                Interested in the Earth being a 4th pin and the Earth pin having a live (coloured) wire going to it.
                                Also, a screw labelled as LIVE is concerning.

                                Albert HickeyW This user is from outside of this forum
                                Albert HickeyW This user is from outside of this forum
                                Albert Hickey
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                                @cstross

                                Tried asking how to use a chainsaw and Copilot refused.
                                So, chainsaw dangerous wiring a plug is OK.

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                                • MH ThaungM MH Thaung

                                  @cstross Seems it would save time just to stick your fingers directly into the socket, no?

                                  Stephen J HenstridgeH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @mhthaung @cstross I expect ChatGPT has instructions for that

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                                  • James 🌈💜S James 🌈💜

                                    @oddhack @cstross

                                    Don't worry, your bank will do it for you.

                                    Access Denied

                                    favicon

                                    (www.macquarie.com.au)

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                                    @shaknais @oddhack @cstross I wonder if they’ll be happy to accept liability for any advice given when it inevitably goes disastrously wrong. There is a weak disclaimer at the bottom of the page. “You should always check your official statements before making product or other financial decisions.”

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                                    • ChristopherD Christopher

                                      @cstross When people used to list life skills they thought should be taught in schools rather than academic subjects, how to wire a plug was a popular choice. So also was how to balance a chequebook.

                                      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Charlie Stross
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                                      #120

                                      @dearlove Also how to correctly address a letter (both on the envelope and in writing the contents). Reading a clock face and tying your shoelaces was supposed to be covered before primary school, though (by parents or kindergarten).

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                                      • tautologyT tautology

                                        @cstross I do these threads every so often. My most recent one was on my Bluesky where I got four LLMs to draw maps progressively getting more zoomed in (the World, Europe, UK, Yorkshire, York).

                                        Things got worse each time you zoomed in, sometimes with "memories" from the previous image. My favourite was the attached version of Yorkshire.

                                        I'll do another one in a month or two.

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                                        Ratsnake GamesR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @tautology @cstross Scotland was destroyed during the war.

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                                        • tautologyT tautology

                                          @cstross I do these threads every so often. My most recent one was on my Bluesky where I got four LLMs to draw maps progressively getting more zoomed in (the World, Europe, UK, Yorkshire, York).

                                          Things got worse each time you zoomed in, sometimes with "memories" from the previous image. My favourite was the attached version of Yorkshire.

                                          I'll do another one in a month or two.

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                                          James TweedieM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          James Tweedie
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                                          #122

                                          @cstross @tautology I love the network of rivers that connect and cross all over the place. Let's see who can define the watershed....

                                          I assume Scotland has gained ultimate geological independence and is somewhere to the north of RIVRI TEMS (?).

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