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Iโ€™ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

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  • Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆB Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

    @taylorlorenz

    don't appeal to high mindedness

    sell it

    - no ads

    - choose a server that fits your style, no one-size-fits-all straightjacket

    - zero privacy defilement

    - immunity to some racist edgelord techbro coming in, buying the thing, and turning it into bigot and ignorance paradise

    myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
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    myrmepropagandist
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    #121

    @benroyce @taylorlorenz

    All the cool kids are already doing it and you are missing out.

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    • Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆB Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

      @taylorlorenz

      don't appeal to high mindedness

      sell it

      - no ads

      - choose a server that fits your style, no one-size-fits-all straightjacket

      - zero privacy defilement

      - immunity to some racist edgelord techbro coming in, buying the thing, and turning it into bigot and ignorance paradise

      myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
      myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
      myrmepropagandist
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      #122

      @benroyce @taylorlorenz

      Depending on the audience you could also mention the ants? Or don't it's fine.

      Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆB J UnbroR CarolynC Mastodon MigrationM 5 Replies Last reply
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      • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

        Iโ€™ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

        How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

        Would love to hear peopleโ€™s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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        #123

        @taylorlorenz

        A lot of people complained when Instagram first switched from a chronological feed to an algorithmic one.

        But I think the way forward for the fediverse is communities moving here wholesale like the forkiverse server did.

        I don't think people will make accounts here otherwise unless they're the kind of nerd who's interested in this (in which case selling it is easy) or they have network effects which take a long time to build up.

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        • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

          Iโ€™ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

          How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

          Would love to hear peopleโ€™s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

          BenB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #124

          @taylorlorenz as a platform it is not and can never be adversarial or extractive to you as a user, the way twitter, Facebook, instagram, TikTok and others are or will be.

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          • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

            Iโ€™ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

            How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

            Would love to hear peopleโ€™s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

            Lyle Solla-YatesL This user is from outside of this forum
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            Lyle Solla-Yates
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            #125

            @taylorlorenz I like Jeffersonโ€™s phrasing: โ€œit neither picks my pocket nor breaks my armโ€ Technology that is not working actively to harm me and my loved ones is very appealing to me.

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              @benroyce @taylorlorenz

              Depending on the audience you could also mention the ants? Or don't it's fine.

              Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆB This user is from outside of this forum
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              @futurebird @taylorlorenz

              ANT PROPAGANDA IS RUINING THE FEDIVERSE

              ๐Ÿ˜‚

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              • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                Iโ€™ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                Would love to hear peopleโ€™s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                #127

                @taylorlorenz I would mention the ridiculous censoring that is going on on YouTube right now and how centralised platforms will, eventually, be hostile towards themes that advertisers don't like, which is obviously adult content but also mental health, LGBTQ, and lots of other topics an advertiser doesn't want to be associated with. Instead of saying "unalived" to appease the platform, you can just say "murdered" on a decentralised platform that doesn't have to cater to advertisers.

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                • Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆB Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

                  @futurebird @taylorlorenz

                  ANT PROPAGANDA IS RUINING THE FEDIVERSE

                  ๐Ÿ˜‚

                  rk: could be an enumR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @benroyce @futurebird @taylorlorenz

                  Propaganta

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                  • rk: could be an enumR rk: could be an enum

                    @benroyce @futurebird @taylorlorenz

                    Propaganta

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                    #129

                    @rk @futurebird @taylorlorenz ๐Ÿ˜ฑ ๐Ÿœ

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                    • lucie digitรกlnรญL lucie digitรกlnรญ

                      @NMBA @taylorlorenz I think account mobility is key, ie the ability to move servers without losing followers.

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                      #130

                      @NMBA can you do that now? I have moved servers twice, each time, my followers disappeared. Although, I haven't had to do that terribly recently. YMMV. ๐Ÿซฒ๐Ÿ˜•๐Ÿซฑ @taylorlorenz

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                      • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                        Iโ€™ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                        How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                        Would love to hear peopleโ€™s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                        #131

                        @taylorlorenz The most important part for me is that this is not yet another "cloud app" where one entity controls everything: your account, what you see, the client applications, etc., but a protocol, where you can use whatever compatible software you want, even multiple.

                        It makes feature rollout difficult, but it's a massive safety feature in my opinion. If Mastodon gGmbH did something highly unpopular, all this software can feasibly choose to ignore it. They *cannot* force it on everyone.

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                        • Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆB Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

                          @rk @futurebird @taylorlorenz ๐Ÿ˜ฑ ๐Ÿœ

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                          @benroyce @rk @futurebird @taylorlorenz there's not only ants but literally every creature in the World (Fedi is particularly good for those interested in nature)

                          I've seen folk send pictures of lions etc that are sleeping in the main road (so everyone has to slow down and stop for them) as they live in countries where these are native, as well as just about every type of bug / snake / spider (folk do at least generally use CWs for those so others aren't scared if they have phobias), and nature scientists often post free links to whole full colour books of various creatures (I got one of all the snakes in Malaysia a few months back)

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                          • Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UKV Alex@rtnVFRmedia Suffolk UK

                            @benroyce @rk @futurebird @taylorlorenz there's not only ants but literally every creature in the World (Fedi is particularly good for those interested in nature)

                            I've seen folk send pictures of lions etc that are sleeping in the main road (so everyone has to slow down and stop for them) as they live in countries where these are native, as well as just about every type of bug / snake / spider (folk do at least generally use CWs for those so others aren't scared if they have phobias), and nature scientists often post free links to whole full colour books of various creatures (I got one of all the snakes in Malaysia a few months back)

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                            @vfrmedia @rk @futurebird @taylorlorenz

                            you just hit upon *the* one, absolutely compelling selling point for mastodon:

                            "we have cat pictures"

                            boom, 1 million new sign ups

                            Golden Bunny of Destiny ๐Ÿ•ฏ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธD GJ Groothedde ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บE 2 Replies Last reply
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                            • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                              Iโ€™ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                              How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                              Would love to hear peopleโ€™s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                              Preuss of the South @DialektgefahrD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #134

                              @taylorlorenz Decentralised social networks such as Mastodon (and the Fediverse as a whole) are superior because they distribute power rather than concentrating it.
                              There is no single corporation dictating rules, algorithms or visibility. Instead, they consist of many independent servers (instances) that are connected to each other โ€“ similar to email.

                              Specifically, this means:
                              โ€ข More genuine freedom of expression:
                              On Mastodon, Friendica, Pixelfed or Akkoma, it is not a tech corporation with business interests that decides what is allowed or what remains "high-reach". Each instance sets its own rules, and users can switch or run their own โ€“ without losing their social network.
                              โ€ข No algorithmic manipulation:
                              Content is displayed chronologically, not according to advertising or engagement optimisation. This reduces polarisation, clickbait and artificial outrage.
                              โ€ข Control lies with the users:
                              Communities moderate themselves, transparently and comprehensibly. If rules become unfair, you simply go elsewhere โ€“ something that is practically impossible with centralised platforms.

                              There is no compulsion to monetise through tracking, advertising or profiling. This fundamentally changes whose interests are at the centre.

                              In short:
                              Centralised platforms "grant" freedom of expression as long as it is profitable or PR-compatible.
                              The Fediverse enables freedom of expression structurally โ€“ because no one can centrally revoke it.

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                                #135

                                @nikatjef

                                yes but there's a big difference between pesky reply guy bigots and ignorants, and a bigoted ignorant edgelord running the joint (elon and twitter)

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                                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                  @benroyce @taylorlorenz

                                  Depending on the audience you could also mention the ants? Or don't it's fine.

                                  J This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #136

                                  @futurebird @benroyce @taylorlorenz

                                  This is a commercial!

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                                  • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                    Iโ€™ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                    How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                    Would love to hear peopleโ€™s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                                    Rob RicciR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @taylorlorenz On the old centralized platforms, everyone's in the same building with the same landlord, if the landlord is shitty (of course they are) everyone suffers. On decentralized media, there are tons of buildings with different landlords, and you can even build your own house. If your landlord sucks, you move.

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                                    • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                      Iโ€™ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                      How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                      Would love to hear peopleโ€™s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                                      @taylorlorenz
                                      Facebook has for years blocked links to my own blog, and now to news websites. Mastodon doesn't do that, and you can also keep your content, so Meta can't delete it all including your photos and friend connections.

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                                      • J JackMex

                                        @futurebird @benroyce @taylorlorenz

                                        This is a commercial!

                                        Ben Royce ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @JackMexa4 @futurebird @taylorlorenz

                                        i could totally see a "denizens of mastodon" campaign featuring prominent accounts

                                        like, futurebird discussing some of her posts in the context of her ants

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                                        • Donald ClarkD Donald Clark

                                          @benroyce @taylorlorenz I would add

                                          - I only see who I explicitly follow (no feed stuffing and manipulation).
                                          - I can migrate to a new home seamlessly with low friction
                                          - as each server sets its own policies, there is no risk of a central, single, set of beliefs controlling everyone.

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                                          #140

                                          @benroyce @taylorlorenz @dsc I think there's another side to the lack of centralized moderation too -- it removes a lot of the "too big to fail" mentality, and in doing so actually allows more moderation.

                                          We've got Twitter over here producing and distributing CSAM, and so many people and institutions *still* won't block or remove links to Twitter purely because of its size.

                                          So you do get more freedom here, but at the same time you get stronger and more fair regulation. Regulation designed for your community instead of for global politics. For example, I follow accounts that post pornography, which would never be allowed on corporate socials. Yet it's all hidden behind appropriate CWs and such. Meanwhile back before I left Facebook I was getting random unsolicited hardcore porn just popping up in my feed a couple times a week! They'd remove it eventually, but not before it popped up full screen while I'm standing in line at the grocery store or something...

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