Valve bows to Kremlin: LGBTQ+ solitaire game [Flick Solitaire] pulled from russian Steam [cited a 2006 federal law prohibiting the "promotion of non-traditional sexualities"]
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What’s the alternative? They have to obey the law, right? What should they have done? How is this “bowing to Kremlin” as if they’re kneeling, waiting to suck their dick or something.
Genuinely curious about these questions.
Pull out.
Yes, I’d still say this if it was America
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Considering the horrid state of economics and corruption in Russia, it is doubtful that their nuclear stockpile and submarines are fit for the job. Honestly, I think North Korea might have more reliable nukes, even if it is less than a handful. With Russia, it would be a fusion roulette.
I honestly agree, and said as much shortly after the invasion of Ukraine. Based on the world’s assessment, they should have just steamrolled them, and didn’t. I also said it would behoove the world powers to reassess their nuclear capability and got a lot of downvotes. The facts as they stand now, though, is the NK can’t get a nuke to American territory, not even Alaska (let’s not talk about Guam and Samoa, even America barely acknowledges they’re part of America). Russia, on the other hand, might be able to, and we don’t know for sure they can’t. All they need is one good sub with working missiles. None of this really matters for Europe, and even 10% of their stockpile working would be devastating for the world, or at least the people living on it. I’d like to think that Putin put more effort into maintaining their status as a nuclear world power, but I would have thought the same of being a military world power, too.
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‘This isn’t “wokeness”, it’s basic human rights and equality and nothing more,’ he added. ‘If Steam can’t support free speech of LGBTQ+ people, then at the very least they should be transparent about this.’
What a bizarre response. Neither Roskomnadzor nor Valve claimed this had anything to do with “‘wokeness,’” and Steam was in fact transparent about this.
I don’t really get what anyone expects Valve to do here other than comply with the law. Still, I’m surprised they’re even able to operate in Russia given all the sanctions.
Pull out. And the same every country, including the one we both live in if need be
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An angry enough people overthrows their government. Depriving the people will get them closer to that
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Okay, we’ll impose Canadian morals, ethics and laws across the world. /s
Canada’s are mostly good so that would be fine
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Pull out.
Yes, I’d still say this if it was America
What would that accomplish though?
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I honestly agree, and said as much shortly after the invasion of Ukraine. Based on the world’s assessment, they should have just steamrolled them, and didn’t. I also said it would behoove the world powers to reassess their nuclear capability and got a lot of downvotes. The facts as they stand now, though, is the NK can’t get a nuke to American territory, not even Alaska (let’s not talk about Guam and Samoa, even America barely acknowledges they’re part of America). Russia, on the other hand, might be able to, and we don’t know for sure they can’t. All they need is one good sub with working missiles. None of this really matters for Europe, and even 10% of their stockpile working would be devastating for the world, or at least the people living on it. I’d like to think that Putin put more effort into maintaining their status as a nuclear world power, but I would have thought the same of being a military world power, too.
There are things that are probably within reach of NK, such as Taiwan. TSMC manufactures the majority of the world’s advanced microchips, and a fair chunk of the older stuff as well. NK can afford the oblivion of Taiwan, but almost everyone else would feel the shock for decades if Taiwan suddenly became a crater. To a lesser extent, the same can be said of Japan.
Mind, the Trump Regime doesn’t understand the value of Taiwan, so Kim probably couldn’t use that as a direct hostage against the US. Trump tried to extort Taiwan, asking for money or else the protection of the US could be pulled. That is just…
The key point, is that NK does have influence, it is just a question of how angry other nations would get if that stick smacks someone.
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It’s called “complying with the law”.
Strange then that Google and Apple didn’t take it down. Valve made a choice and not a good one.
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It’s almost always wrong, and businesses should pull out of those places. I hope they pull out of my country if they pull similar shit. If you support bad values, you should be punished. And if losing their games makes people finally overthrow the magats, then that must be done
This is an insane take. Every country does this to some extent, because there is no country with no laws. By your logic no company should ever do any business ever.
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I wonder if the same people who say Steam should pull out of Russia would agree that Steam should also pull out from the US. I mean, that’s what should happen given the basis of the arguments being used, right?
If the US opposes values Valve has then they should.
I’m not going to pretend Valve cares about these causes though.
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The alternative is to stop doing business in places where laws are being used to restrict the games available.
Incorrect. You are completely ignoring what those restrictions are.
I detailed my thoughts and arguments, feel free to address those directly.
if you want to ignore most of the reply to argue against a stance i wasn’t taking there’s not much of a conversation to be had here.
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Which steam games have been removed by the US government?
There was the whole thing about payment processors raising a stink because of Steam, which is comparable and I have no evidence Dementia Don simps were not somehow involved, since this was started via some republican christofascist Karen association. But even if that does not suffice it for you, I’m not wondering about to the present situation, I’m wondering about the situation of when (not if) it happens in the future.
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Valve Bows to Kremlin: LGBTQ+ Solitaire Game Pulled from Russian Steam
Valve sparks outrage by removing the LGBTQ+ inclusive game Flick Solitaire from Steam in Russia, bowing to Kremlin censorship demands while Apple and Google refuse.
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Well, I know im against the grain here, but I find this to be very positive news, for Russia. I not a supporter of sexual deviance. Im stating an opinion, not supporting any imagined “hate”. I want to only support love
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So, human rights stuff aside, how/why the fuck do we need a genderised solitaire?
It seems to be one set of cards, as a part or a deck. Its pretty much a nothing burger.
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There was the whole thing about payment processors raising a stink because of Steam, which is comparable and I have no evidence Dementia Don simps were not somehow involved, since this was started via some republican christofascist Karen association. But even if that does not suffice it for you, I’m not wondering about to the present situation, I’m wondering about the situation of when (not if) it happens in the future.
That was done by Australians and had nothing to do with the US government. Stick to the facts.
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Well, I know im against the grain here, but I find this to be very positive news, for Russia. I not a supporter of sexual deviance. Im stating an opinion, not supporting any imagined “hate”. I want to only support love
Not just against the grain, against the instance rules (bigotry). Like a house guest that comes over and pisses on the floor.
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“Non-traditional”? Homosexuality has been around and recorded since the Romans and even prior. 2000+ years isn’t traditional? That’s just as long as Christianity.
Inb4 the ackshually, homosexuality is a modern concept that’s been around for less than 100 years
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Well, I know im against the grain here, but I find this to be very positive news, for Russia. I not a supporter of sexual deviance. Im stating an opinion, not supporting any imagined “hate”. I want to only support love
Your intolerance is not welcome here.
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Not just against the grain, against the instance rules (bigotry). Like a house guest that comes over and pisses on the floor.
No, me merely stating my opinion is against no rules. And what you consider bigotry… well thats fine. Im sorry you imagine I pissed on your floor. Maybe your imagination sucks?
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Your intolerance is not welcome here.
Ignorance…
Im “intolerant” of nothing.
I tolerate sexual deviance just dandy
Not supporting and not tolerating are very different
