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Valve bows to Kremlin: LGBTQ+ solitaire game [Flick Solitaire] pulled from russian Steam [cited a 2006 federal law prohibiting the "promotion of non-traditional sexualities"]

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  • H hayvan@feddit.nl

    It’s called “complying with the law”.

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    horse
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    #102

    Strange then that Google and Apple didn’t take it down. Valve made a choice and not a good one.

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    • ObliviousEnlightenmentI ObliviousEnlightenment

      It’s almost always wrong, and businesses should pull out of those places. I hope they pull out of my country if they pull similar shit. If you support bad values, you should be punished. And if losing their games makes people finally overthrow the magats, then that must be done

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      idlesheep@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      #103

      This is an insane take. Every country does this to some extent, because there is no country with no laws. By your logic no company should ever do any business ever.

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      • V Venia Silente

        I wonder if the same people who say Steam should pull out of Russia would agree that Steam should also pull out from the US. I mean, that’s what should happen given the basis of the arguments being used, right?

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        ilikeboobies@lemmy.ca
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        #104

        If the US opposes values Valve has then they should.

        I’m not going to pretend Valve cares about these causes though.

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        • J jazzkoalapaws@ttrpg.network

          The alternative is to stop doing business in places where laws are being used to restrict the games available.

          Incorrect. You are completely ignoring what those restrictions are.

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          senal@programming.dev
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          #105

          I detailed my thoughts and arguments, feel free to address those directly.

          if you want to ignore most of the reply to argue against a stance i wasn’t taking there’s not much of a conversation to be had here.

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          • A ayyy@sh.itjust.works

            Which steam games have been removed by the US government?

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            Venia Silente
            wrote on last edited by
            #106

            There was the whole thing about payment processors raising a stink because of Steam, which is comparable and I have no evidence Dementia Don simps were not somehow involved, since this was started via some republican christofascist Karen association. But even if that does not suffice it for you, I’m not wondering about to the present situation, I’m wondering about the situation of when (not if) it happens in the future.

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              Valve Bows to Kremlin: LGBTQ+ Solitaire Game Pulled from Russian Steam

              Valve sparks outrage by removing the LGBTQ+ inclusive game Flick Solitaire from Steam in Russia, bowing to Kremlin censorship demands while Apple and Google refuse.

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              realspecialguy@lemmy.world
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              #107

              Well, I know im against the grain here, but I find this to be very positive news, for Russia. I not a supporter of sexual deviance. Im stating an opinion, not supporting any imagined “hate”. I want to only support love

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              • W wampus@lemmy.ca

                So, human rights stuff aside, how/why the fuck do we need a genderised solitaire?

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                maplesaga@lemmy.world
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                #108

                It seems to be one set of cards, as a part or a deck. Its pretty much a nothing burger.

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                • V Venia Silente

                  There was the whole thing about payment processors raising a stink because of Steam, which is comparable and I have no evidence Dementia Don simps were not somehow involved, since this was started via some republican christofascist Karen association. But even if that does not suffice it for you, I’m not wondering about to the present situation, I’m wondering about the situation of when (not if) it happens in the future.

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                  ayyy@sh.itjust.works
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #109

                  That was done by Australians and had nothing to do with the US government. Stick to the facts.

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                  • R realspecialguy@lemmy.world

                    Well, I know im against the grain here, but I find this to be very positive news, for Russia. I not a supporter of sexual deviance. Im stating an opinion, not supporting any imagined “hate”. I want to only support love

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                    tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world
                    wrote on last edited by tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world
                    #110

                    Not just against the grain, against the instance rules (bigotry). Like a house guest that comes over and pisses on the floor.

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                    • R ramble81@lemmy.zip

                      “Non-traditional”? Homosexuality has been around and recorded since the Romans and even prior. 2000+ years isn’t traditional? That’s just as long as Christianity.

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                      Lemminary
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                      #111

                      Inb4 the ackshually, homosexuality is a modern concept that’s been around for less than 100 years ☝🤓

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                      • R realspecialguy@lemmy.world

                        Well, I know im against the grain here, but I find this to be very positive news, for Russia. I not a supporter of sexual deviance. Im stating an opinion, not supporting any imagined “hate”. I want to only support love

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                        witten@lemmy.world
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                        #112

                        Your intolerance is not welcome here.

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                        • T tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world

                          Not just against the grain, against the instance rules (bigotry). Like a house guest that comes over and pisses on the floor.

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                          realspecialguy@lemmy.world
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #113

                          No, me merely stating my opinion is against no rules. And what you consider bigotry… well thats fine. Im sorry you imagine I pissed on your floor. Maybe your imagination sucks?

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                          • W witten@lemmy.world

                            Your intolerance is not welcome here.

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                            realspecialguy@lemmy.world
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                            #114

                            Ignorance…

                            Im “intolerant” of nothing.

                            I tolerate sexual deviance just dandy

                            Not supporting and not tolerating are very different

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                            • ObliviousEnlightenmentI ObliviousEnlightenment

                              Canada’s are mostly good so that would be fine

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                              slykethephoxenix@lemmy.ca
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                              #115

                              I’d argue imposing your view onto others is not good.

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                              • R realspecialguy@lemmy.world

                                Well, I know im against the grain here, but I find this to be very positive news, for Russia. I not a supporter of sexual deviance. Im stating an opinion, not supporting any imagined “hate”. I want to only support love

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                                skavau@lemmy.world
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                                #116

                                So what you are essentially saying is that you want to persecute LGBT people.

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                                • R realspecialguy@lemmy.world

                                  Ignorance…

                                  Im “intolerant” of nothing.

                                  I tolerate sexual deviance just dandy

                                  Not supporting and not tolerating are very different

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                                  skavau@lemmy.world
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #117

                                  I tolerate sexual deviance just dandy

                                  Clearly not if you think said “sexual deviance” should have its culture shuttered by state force.

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                                  • H hayvan@feddit.nl

                                    It’s called “complying with the law”.

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                                    rdri@lemmy.world
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                                    #118

                                    Russia issued a lot of legal requirements that don’t make sense. For example they at some point asked more money than we have on the planet, from Google.

                                    Complying with the law on a territory not controlled by sensible human beings should be considered questionable at the very least.

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                                    • S son_of_macha@lemmy.cafe

                                      Why the fuck is Steam still in Russia?

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                                      kbobabob
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                                      #119

                                      Why are they still in America?

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                                      • S skavau@lemmy.world

                                        So what you are essentially saying is that you want to persecute LGBT people.

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                                        realspecialguy@lemmy.world
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #120

                                        You cant just say I “essentially” said something then totally misinterpret what I said…

                                        Well, I mean you can, but the stupidity continues to pain me physically…

                                        It may please you, but if im victim of much more stupid, I may have an intentional seizure/heart attack… either way, i pray to God to help me through this

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                                        • R realspecialguy@lemmy.world

                                          You cant just say I “essentially” said something then totally misinterpret what I said…

                                          Well, I mean you can, but the stupidity continues to pain me physically…

                                          It may please you, but if im victim of much more stupid, I may have an intentional seizure/heart attack… either way, i pray to God to help me through this

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                                          skavau@lemmy.world
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                                          #121

                                          There’s no misinterpretation. You openly support the state banning LGBT expression. That’s a form of persecution.

                                          If the government demanded that Christian-themed games be banned, that would be persecution to Christians. This is no different.

                                          Why shouldn’t a Solitaire game be allowed to have LGBT skins or themes?

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