Wandering Adventure Party

@xgranade ah. same here i guess. i think i have started to see bottom surgery as such an impossibility for me rn that i've just ejected it from my consciousness. forgot about that one.

@xgranade yes, an inhumane system has created an inhumane sentiment in the lower class. not something we can really blame them for. it is a sentiment that exists, and so long as it does, i don't think there can be much shared class consciousness between software engineers and grad students.

(i am not sure what you mean about confidence to buy medicine. though i struggle financially, i feel like it would be disingenuous to claim that i cannot confidently buy medicine. but perhaps it is not worth getting into)

@xgranade yes, i understood this and did not think you were saying anything problematic

@xgranade i guess what i'm saying is that i do not believe a meaningful amount of class consciousness can be shared between labor-class millionaires and the portion of the working class that cannot afford to own property. the metric space that the notion of financial similarity exists in is just so starkly different between the minds of those in the former category and those in the latter. and in the minds of the latter, your point about emergencies relates more to small transition probabilities between classes rather than any serious notion of similarity at current time.

put another way, you cannot honestly expect someone who lives paycheck to paycheck to think a millionaire is more similar to them than to a billionaire. so it is impossible to have a shared sense of class consciousness between the paycheck-to-paycheck and the millionaire.

@xgranade whether this is true depends on which metric you are using when you say "more in common". it seems the metric you have chosen is one related more to abstract notions of power and what one can get away with as opposed to how much one's basic needs are being met. i find this choice of metric in itself to be a compelling counterpoint.