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  • tautologyT tautology

    @ssilvonen @cstross Ackroyd the Barbarian wi' 'is warsheep and scout ferret. 'e adjusts his warcap and lights his Woodbine. as 'e descends to cleanse the lands of rogue Lancastrians.

    Wi' his warcry of "Yorkshire, Yorkshire, dust tha want braying"?

    Sarianna SilvonenS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @tautology @cstross You're cheating, I know AI didn't write that 😆

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    • Tofu GolemT Tofu Golem

      @cstross
      If you want a computer to produce wiring diagrams like this correctly, you need something called an expertise system, which is a very different beast from the various technologies we refer to as AI.

      Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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      @tofugolem Expert system, not "expertise" system, and no, not really, that's not what they're for (did a course on designing them circa 1990)

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      • Nigel WadsworthN Nigel Wadsworth

        @cstross I just asked Gemini to create one for us in Australia. Might try it later… just not sure…

        Madeleine MorrisR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @nygl @cstross

        Contemplate the suicidal absurdity that billions of dollar, and millions of barrels of oil are being squandered to produce .... this.

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        • CodeByJeff - Now with AI!C CodeByJeff - Now with AI!

          @cstross Why is this always "Notes for Americans"?

          Are Americans the only people in the world who aren't British?

          Do you think British people born after 1992 have a fucking clue why this is funny?

          Have you ever tried to reconcile your feelings of "America isn't the center of everything" with your obsession to make America the center of everything?

          "For people outside the UK" would have been a far better (and more inclusive) way to start your post

          Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @codebyjeff Because it's mostly Americans who're stupid enough to think the entire planet is just more people like Americans. (Also I am old and you are missing the point.)

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          • Colin WatsonC Colin Watson

            @cstross @lispi314 It hasn't been relevant since websites entered the general public's consciousness. I became an adult a few years after the relevant change in the law and I've been a (mostly ...) perfectly functional adult for the three decades or so ever since without ever having bothered to learn how to wire a plug. Literally never needed that skill.

            Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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            #91

            @cjwatson @lispi314 I haven't needed it in a couple of decades either, but still, I know how not to kill myself (get @feorag to do it for me).

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            • James 🌈💜S James 🌈💜

              @oddhack @cstross

              Don't worry, your bank will do it for you.

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              (www.macquarie.com.au)

              Damien (TIG BUSINESS)A This user is from outside of this forum
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              Damien (TIG BUSINESS)
              wrote last edited by
              #92

              @shaknais @oddhack @cstross off off off off <mashes the no button>

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              • Brian SwetlandS Brian Swetland

                @cstross Was (1) due to variation in outlet designs in different locales or some other reason?

                Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
                Charlie Stross
                wrote last edited by
                #93

                @swetland The UK had regional plug variations until the 1920s/30s and then a huge push to standardize and rewire the nation from the late 1940s onwards that took decades to run to completion.

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                • James 🌈💜S James 🌈💜

                  @oddhack @cstross

                  Don't worry, your bank will do it for you.

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                  Josh SpryS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #94

                  @shaknais hahaha, of course it’s Macquarie.

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                  • Nigel WadsworthN Nigel Wadsworth

                    @cstross I just asked Gemini to create one for us in Australia. Might try it later… just not sure…

                    Chuckles ❤️🏳️‍⚧️🇺🇦❤️C This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Chuckles ❤️🏳️‍⚧️🇺🇦❤️
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                    #95

                    @nygl @cstross you gotta wire it like that because of the Coriolis forces

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                    • Nigel WadsworthN Nigel Wadsworth

                      @cstross I just asked Gemini to create one for us in Australia. Might try it later… just not sure…

                      Christian SieversS This user is from outside of this forum
                      Christian SieversS This user is from outside of this forum
                      Christian Sievers
                      wrote last edited by
                      #96

                      @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

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                      • C.S.StrowbridgeC C.S.Strowbridge

                        @cstross

                        "1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs)."

                        This is such a stupid thing.

                        The plug itself is very good, but having to wire it yourself is painfully dumb.

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                        #97

                        @csstrowbridge @cstross It’s not difficult. My dad taught me how, though the wire colours were different when I was a kid. There is an easy mnemonic for the current colours.

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                        • Dave RahardjaD Dave Rahardja

                          @cstross Luckily, you can’t follow its instructions in this case because there is no black wire in the standard UK three-wire bundle.

                          MauriceB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @drahardja @cstross This plug must be for a staircase I suppose.

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            @swetland The UK had regional plug variations until the 1920s/30s and then a huge push to standardize and rewire the nation from the late 1940s onwards that took decades to run to completion.

                            Brian SwetlandS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Brian Swetland
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                            #99

                            @cstross Suspected it might be something like that. Deferring to the appliance/device purchaser is a fascinating approach.

                            I grew up during the conversion to grounded outlets and from Bell System to Modular phone jacks, so it's not like we didn't have plenty of connector weirdness on this side of the pond too.

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                            • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                              @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

                              Link Preview Image
                              MauriceB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Maurice
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                              #100

                              @Sie @nygl @cstross That's a pain you have to rewire it every time you want to pull out the plug. Neutral on the case and an earth that doubles as a live is an interesting choice.

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                                Grumble 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇬🇱G This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @cstross Jesus Christ. AI was supposed to make the competition more fierce for the Nobel Prize. Instead, it's gonna sweep the fucking Darwin Awards.

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                                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                  RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                  Notes for Americans:

                                  1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                  2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                  3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                                  Stuart Longland (VK4MSL)S This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Stuart Longland (VK4MSL)
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                                  @cstross I would have thought, given it appears to be connecting live to earth, it'd trip the RCD rather quickly.

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                                  • tautologyT tautology

                                    @ssilvonen @cstross Ackroyd the Barbarian wi' 'is warsheep and scout ferret. 'e adjusts his warcap and lights his Woodbine. as 'e descends to cleanse the lands of rogue Lancastrians.

                                    Wi' his warcry of "Yorkshire, Yorkshire, dust tha want braying"?

                                    MauriceB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @tautology @ssilvonen @cstross I feel I need to here more of the tales of Ackroyd, prithee, tell us what are the best things in life?

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                      Notes for Americans:

                                      1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                      2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                      3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                                      TC Won't Give In To LiesT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      TC Won't Give In To Lies
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                                      #104

                                      @cstross

                                      AI 101: never believe any answer AI gives you.

                                      AI is for entertainment purposes only. It has zero functionality to ensure it's replies are correct. Worse, it is designed to make it's nonsense replies sound as plausible as possible.

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                        Notes for Americans:

                                        1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                        2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                        3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                                        Ross BurtonR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #105

                                        @cstross And of course being a probabilistic bullshit machine, ask again and you get a different diagram. ChatGPT 5.2 just produced this beauty for me.

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                                        • Christian SieversS Christian Sievers

                                          @nygl @cstross great fun. Here's a technical illustration for European plugs

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          Ratsnake GamesR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Ratsnake Games
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                                          #106

                                          @Sie @nygl @cstross No no, this one is for Europeean Schuko Plugs. Completely different thing.

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