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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

    Notes for Americans:

    1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

    2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

    3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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    @cstross as an American who was awake and aware prior to 1992 and growing up in a house with multiple appliances from the 60s, I can attest that the only household appliances I ever saw that did not include pre-molded plugs were washing machines, and the one I bought in 2024 was the same way. Agree with the other two. Most houses of the day had a 230 outlet specifically for the air conditioner. Washers tend to be 230 as well. We have standardized on dumb.

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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      @cstross blive

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

        Notes for Americans:

        1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

        2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

        3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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        #45

        @cstross Regarding #3, ... and? 😁

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

          Notes for Americans:

          1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

          2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

          3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

          Em & future cats 🇺🇦🐈🏳️‍🌈E This user is from outside of this forum
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          #46

          @cstross I will post what I had posted in the post you are quoting, because it needs repeating:

          What the flippin’ hell 😳🙀
          Just so ya know I am *NOT* an electrician and I am freaking out at this image 🙀💀!!!

          “We’re doomed” 💀

          (Please play in your head Bernie Sanders’ doppelgänger/distant cousin when he said that exact line 😹)

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

            Notes for Americans:

            1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

            2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

            3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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            colinux
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            #47

            @cstross volts jolt, amps kill.

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            • Joe BayesJ Joe Bayes

              @cstross You...you had to wire your own plugs? Seriously?

              How many people killed themselves each year because they didn't know how to do it properly and were too impatient to wait for someone who did?

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              M. Grégoire
              wrote last edited by
              #48

              @cstross @jbayes
              Yes, why were people wiring their own plugs?

              I'll bet ChatGPT could give me a story...

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                Jon
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                #49

                @cstross it does not look possible to physically plug this in. If so, that obviously calls for an "AI"-generated adapter to go with the plug!

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

                  Dave RahardjaD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #50

                  @cstross BLIVE

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                    Notes for Americans:

                    1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                    2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                    3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                    C.S.StrowbridgeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    C.S.Strowbridge
                    wrote last edited by
                    #51

                    @cstross

                    "1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances (they were sold without pre-molded plugs)."

                    This is such a stupid thing.

                    The plug itself is very good, but having to wire it yourself is painfully dumb.

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                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                      RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                      Notes for Americans:

                      1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                      2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                      3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                      Dave RahardjaD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #52

                      @cstross Luckily, you can’t follow its instructions in this case because there is no black wire in the standard UK three-wire bundle.

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                        Notes for Americans:

                        1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                        2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                        3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #53

                        @cstross FWIW ChatGPT wants to be WebMD 2.0 so there's that 😑

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                        • Joe BayesJ Joe Bayes

                          @cstross You...you had to wire your own plugs? Seriously?

                          How many people killed themselves each year because they didn't know how to do it properly and were too impatient to wait for someone who did?

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                          #54

                          @jbayes @cstross presumably not none, since by the time i was a kid in the 70s, they were teaching it in school…

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                          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                            There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                            #55

                            @cstross

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                              Roy -- the dull one
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                              #56

                              @cstross

                              Okay, you've convinced me! Now I'm ready to support a million satellite data centers.
                              /s

                              NO I'M NOT! I'm having another IRONY attack, folks! DO NOT seek AI advice on anything electrical, or flammable, or romantic! DO NOT buy into zany schemes for becoming a 'Kardashev Level II Civilization' by making Low Earth Orbit into The Junkyard In The Sky!

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                                @cstross @drahardja I mean, they don’t even SHOW the purple wire.

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                                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                  RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                  Notes for Americans:

                                  1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                  2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                  3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                                  Jack Yan (甄爵恩)J This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Jack Yan (甄爵恩)
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                                  #58

                                  @cstross Wow, did not know number 1. I wonder when this practice stopped in New Zealand. I remember my dad wiring plugs but then that was his trade.

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                    Notes for Americans:

                                    1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                    2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                    3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                                    Tofu Golem
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                                    #59

                                    @cstross
                                    If you want a computer to produce wiring diagrams like this correctly, you need something called an expertise system, which is a very different beast from the various technologies we refer to as AI.

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                      Notes for Americans:

                                      1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                      2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                      3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                                      I am Jack's Found 404
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                                      #60

                                      @cstross

                                      But maybe if we let "AI" wire its own plugs...

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                                      • Nigel WadsworthN Nigel Wadsworth

                                        @cstross I just asked Gemini to create one for us in Australia. Might try it later… just not sure…

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                                        #61

                                        @nygl @cstross

                                        Looks legit.
                                        I just cannot believe people put any faith in any of this nonsense 🤦‍♂️

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                          Notes for Americans:

                                          1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                          2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                          3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                                          CodeByJeff - Now with AI!C This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          CodeByJeff - Now with AI!
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                                          #62

                                          @cstross Why is this always "Notes for Americans"?

                                          Are Americans the only people in the world who aren't British?

                                          Do you think British people born after 1992 have a fucking clue why this is funny?

                                          Have you ever tried to reconcile your feelings of "America isn't the center of everything" with your obsession to make America the center of everything?

                                          "For people outside the UK" would have been a far better (and more inclusive) way to start your post

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