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@winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.
@DJDarren @winkleink @cstross I was going to say that at least that fuse blew when I just looked at that diagram, but on second thought, that's impossible.
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RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996
Notes for Americans:
1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).
2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.
3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.
@cstross An observation that if an appliance did come with a pre-wired plug (nb not moulded ones), that didn't mean they were safe. First thing I learnt to do was check the wiring. Yikes in so many cases.
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@dresstokilt I'm talking about the UK. Where EVERYTHING runs on 230v and nothing came with a plug prior to 1992. Read for context!
@cstross ooooh thought you were talking about the US. I did know that about the UK.
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@winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.
@DJDarren @winkleink @cstross On the contrary. I think he should be the *only* person required to use these instructions to wire up a plug.
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@cstross this is still ok, right?
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@winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.
@DJDarren
LOL looking at the picture with WTF on my face, and after while read that it's AI genera^W hallucinated.
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RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996
Notes for Americans:
1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).
2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.
3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.
@cstross Oddly, you might live. That drawing was SO %$&*ed up that it appeared to have a whole extra pin!
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@cstross this is still ok, right?
No, just no. It's a good quality socket (MK are one of the best, and used to be the automatic choice for the building trade), but you have no idea what's behind that faceplate and if it's been correctly wired. Sticking _anything_ conductive into an electrical outlet is a very bad idea. (And a metal door key is probably one of the worst things you could use.) 3:O(((>
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@josh0 @DJDarren @winkleink @cstross
Yeah that fuse will last about 0.001 seconds. Safe!
@Phosphenes @josh0 @winkleink @cstross In fairness, there aren't many sockets that could accept that plug.
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There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.
@cstross ah the elusive 3-phase UK plug
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@Phosphenes @josh0 @winkleink @cstross In fairness, there aren't many sockets that could accept that plug.
@DJDarren @Phosphenes @winkleink @cstross you know what they say: when you have a hammer, you can solve any problem with it.
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@elaine1helen AIs are *generative* and they're designed to generate an answer shaped object, not provide an *actual* answer.
@elaine1helen @cstross Yes, one key point of failure for asking "simple" questions of genAI is that they are designed to generate something original, combining and randomizing their training inputs instead of just copying one.
And for something like this, there's the issue that they don't really have a 3D model of the world, so every different angle of an image is like a different variation on the diagram, and these then get combined in ways that don't make sense from a real-world perspective.
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@cstross this is still ok, right?
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RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996
Notes for Americans:
1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).
2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.
3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.
@cstross #3 often applies all on its own, independent of the first two.
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RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996
Notes for Americans:
1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).
2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.
3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.
Imagine the bomb disposal trope. Countdown running out. Hero has to decide which wire to cut, asks a LLM
BIG Wiring a plug was part of the Standard Grade Science course in Scotland (going back a few years). Towards the end of its lifetime we were forbidden from teaching it on grounds that you are no longer able to do it. It did not come up in the exam.
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@cstross And the reason that pre-fitted plugs were made mandatory was because so many people didn't know how to correctly wire one.
Which I find intensely depressing, as I have known how to wire one from very young.
We were expected to learn how to wire a plug at school (late 80's, probably). My dad had already taught me, so I got full marks for doing it properly -- short live length, some slack in earth, and so on.
I then demonstrated to the teacher that I could do it again (properly, still) with a butter knife and my teeth...
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There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.
@cstross unlike the first image this one isn’t plausible enough to follow
The first image will mislead people
