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  • DarrenD Darren

    @winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.

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    @DJDarren @cstross @winkleink Looks perfectly fine to me.

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    • DarrenD Darren

      @winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.

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      Josh :everything_bagel:
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      @DJDarren @winkleink @cstross at least this one won’t burn your house down?

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      • Josh :everything_bagel:J Josh :everything_bagel:

        @DJDarren @winkleink @cstross at least this one won’t burn your house down?

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        Phosphenes
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        @josh0 @DJDarren @winkleink @cstross

        Yeah that fuse will last about 0.001 seconds. Safe! πŸ‘

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        • DarrenD Darren

          @winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.

          Jeff CraigF This user is from outside of this forum
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          @DJDarren @winkleink @cstross I was going to say that at least that fuse blew when I just looked at that diagram, but on second thought, that's impossible.

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

            Notes for Americans:

            1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

            2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

            3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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            #199

            @cstross An observation that if an appliance did come with a pre-wired plug (nb not moulded ones), that didn't mean they were safe. First thing I learnt to do was check the wiring. Yikes in so many cases.

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              @dresstokilt I'm talking about the UK. Where EVERYTHING runs on 230v and nothing came with a plug prior to 1992. Read for context!

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              #200

              @cstross ooooh thought you were talking about the US. I did know that about the UK.

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              • DarrenD Darren

                @winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.

                Hugo MillsD This user is from outside of this forum
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                @DJDarren @winkleink @cstross On the contrary. I think he should be the *only* person required to use these instructions to wire up a plug.

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                • Trammell HudsonT Trammell Hudson

                  @cstross this is still ok, right?

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                  @th @cstross This made me quickly move my hands away from the phone. It still makes me uncomfortable just looking at it. Excellent!

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                  • DarrenD Darren

                    @winkleink @cstross Always keen to jump on a bandwagon, I just asked Gemini to draw me a diagram of how to wire a UK plug. And, well, I'm not asking Sundar Pichai for any DIY help any time soon.

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                    #203

                    @DJDarren
                    LOL looking at the picture with WTF on my face, and after while read that it's AI genera^W hallucinated. πŸ˜„

                    @winkleink @cstross

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                    • James πŸŒˆπŸ’œS James πŸŒˆπŸ’œ

                      @oddhack @cstross

                      Don't worry, your bank will do it for you.

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                      (www.macquarie.com.au)

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                      @shaknais @oddhack @cstross

                      I have nothing but:

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                        Notes for Americans:

                        1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                        2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                        3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                        #205

                        @cstross Oddly, you might live. That drawing was SO %$&*ed up that it appeared to have a whole extra pin! πŸ™ˆ

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                        • Trammell HudsonT Trammell Hudson

                          @cstross this is still ok, right?

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                          @th @cstross

                          No, just no. It's a good quality socket (MK are one of the best, and used to be the automatic choice for the building trade), but you have no idea what's behind that faceplate and if it's been correctly wired. Sticking _anything_ conductive into an electrical outlet is a very bad idea. (And a metal door key is probably one of the worst things you could use.) 3:O(((>

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                            @josh0 @DJDarren @winkleink @cstross

                            Yeah that fuse will last about 0.001 seconds. Safe! πŸ‘

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                            @Phosphenes @josh0 @winkleink @cstross In fairness, there aren't many sockets that could accept that plug.

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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                              Andrew
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                              #208

                              @cstross ah the elusive 3-phase UK plug

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                              • ColmD Colm

                                @cstross

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                                @dotcolm @cstross for countries that use 0VAC

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                                • DarrenD Darren

                                  @Phosphenes @josh0 @winkleink @cstross In fairness, there aren't many sockets that could accept that plug.

                                  Josh :everything_bagel:J This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @DJDarren @Phosphenes @winkleink @cstross you know what they say: when you have a hammer, you can solve any problem with it.

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    @elaine1helen AIs are *generative* and they're designed to generate an answer shaped object, not provide an *actual* answer.

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                                    @elaine1helen @cstross Yes, one key point of failure for asking "simple" questions of genAI is that they are designed to generate something original, combining and randomizing their training inputs instead of just copying one.

                                    And for something like this, there's the issue that they don't really have a 3D model of the world, so every different angle of an image is like a different variation on the diagram, and these then get combined in ways that don't make sense from a real-world perspective.

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                                    • Trammell HudsonT Trammell Hudson

                                      @cstross this is still ok, right?

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                                      @th @cstross Yep that's fine. Everyone knows sockets use Yale keys, but it was a Chubb you'd be in trouble

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                        Notes for Americans:

                                        1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                        2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                        3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                                        #213

                                        @cstross #3 often applies all on its own, independent of the first two.

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                          Notes for Americans:

                                          1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                          2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                          3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                                          Richard   WebbF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Richard Webb
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                                          @cstross

                                          Imagine the bomb disposal trope. Countdown running out. Hero has to decide which wire to cut, asks a LLM
                                          πŸ’₯ BIGπŸ’₯

                                          Wiring a plug was part of the Standard Grade Science course in Scotland (going back a few years). Towards the end of its lifetime we were forbidden from teaching it on grounds that you are no longer able to do it. It did not come up in the exam.

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