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The Guardian: Google AI summaries are ruining the livelihoods of recipe writers: ‘It’s an extinction event’

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  • AI6YR BenA This user is from outside of this forum
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    The Guardian: Google AI summaries are ruining the livelihoods of recipe writers: ‘It’s an extinction event’

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    Google AI summaries are ruining the livelihoods of recipe writers: ‘It’s an extinction event’

    AI Mode is mangling recipes by merging instructions from multiple creators – and causing them huge dips in ad traffic

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    the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

    #ai #llm #AIpocalypse

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      The Guardian: Google AI summaries are ruining the livelihoods of recipe writers: ‘It’s an extinction event’

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      Google AI summaries are ruining the livelihoods of recipe writers: ‘It’s an extinction event’

      AI Mode is mangling recipes by merging instructions from multiple creators – and causing them huge dips in ad traffic

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      the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

      #ai #llm #AIpocalypse

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      "....But she is still worried about the potential impact of AI. When she recently did a Google search for “Italian meatballs”, Familystyle Food appeared as the top result. Then she switched to AI Mode. There, she found the recipe had been Frankensteined – or “synthesized” as Gemini put it – into a new recipe with nine other sources (including Sip and Feast and a Washington Post recipe for Greek meatballs). The AI-generated recipe was little more than a list of ingredients and six basic steps with none of the details that make Tedesco’s recipe unique...."

      #aislop #ai

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        "....But she is still worried about the potential impact of AI. When she recently did a Google search for “Italian meatballs”, Familystyle Food appeared as the top result. Then she switched to AI Mode. There, she found the recipe had been Frankensteined – or “synthesized” as Gemini put it – into a new recipe with nine other sources (including Sip and Feast and a Washington Post recipe for Greek meatballs). The AI-generated recipe was little more than a list of ingredients and six basic steps with none of the details that make Tedesco’s recipe unique...."

        #aislop #ai

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        @ai6yr So, to be honest, that's how I cook a lot of the time -- "Frankensteining" 2 or 3 recipes to come up with my own. But I also know how to analyze cooking techniques, know how things taste (and what substitutions to use), etc., etc. If I'm learning how to make something I'm not familiar with, I stick to the original recipe for the first time, then muck around with it (sometimes) if I make it again.

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        • DoomsdaysCWD DoomsdaysCW

          @ai6yr So, to be honest, that's how I cook a lot of the time -- "Frankensteining" 2 or 3 recipes to come up with my own. But I also know how to analyze cooking techniques, know how things taste (and what substitutions to use), etc., etc. If I'm learning how to make something I'm not familiar with, I stick to the original recipe for the first time, then muck around with it (sometimes) if I make it again.

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          @DoomsdaysCW @ai6yr
          Have ~75 cookbooks. One book teaches about cooking, “The Joy of Cooking”, mid ‘60s edition is the best.

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            @DoomsdaysCW @ai6yr
            Have ~75 cookbooks. One book teaches about cooking, “The Joy of Cooking”, mid ‘60s edition is the best.

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            I have some pretty old ones from the 1940s and 1950s (my grandmothers), but my favorite older cookbook the Fanny Farmer (1965 reprint of the original) that my great aunt gave me. Some old school stuff in that. And no, I don't have 75+ cookbooks -- probably around 50? (Now I need to do a rough count...). @stevewfolds @ai6yr

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            • DoomsdaysCWD DoomsdaysCW

              I have some pretty old ones from the 1940s and 1950s (my grandmothers), but my favorite older cookbook the Fanny Farmer (1965 reprint of the original) that my great aunt gave me. Some old school stuff in that. And no, I don't have 75+ cookbooks -- probably around 50? (Now I need to do a rough count...). @stevewfolds @ai6yr

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              So, question for you, @stevewfolds (and @ai6yr ) -- what are your favorite #cookbooks?

              My top 5
              1. Sioux Chef's Indigenous Kitchen (already!)
              2. Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat
              3. Fannie Farmer's
              4. The Festive Foods of Ireland
              5. Classical Indian Cooking

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              • DoomsdaysCWD DoomsdaysCW

                So, question for you, @stevewfolds (and @ai6yr ) -- what are your favorite #cookbooks?

                My top 5
                1. Sioux Chef's Indigenous Kitchen (already!)
                2. Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat
                3. Fannie Farmer's
                4. The Festive Foods of Ireland
                5. Classical Indian Cooking

                AI6YR BenA This user is from outside of this forum
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                @DoomsdaysCW @stevewfolds

                Reader's Digest "Down Home Cooking"
                Betty Crocker Cookbook (1970's ish edition)
                Bell's Best (compilation of recipes from Ma Bell employees.. 1980's publishing but seems to be 60's and 70's recipes. Photocopied)
                Taste of Aloha (hawaiian cooking)
                The Complete Meat Cookbook, Bruce Aidell
                The Well Filled Tortilla
                Any number of Alton Brown cookbooks

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                • AI6YR BenA AI6YR Ben

                  @DoomsdaysCW @stevewfolds

                  Reader's Digest "Down Home Cooking"
                  Betty Crocker Cookbook (1970's ish edition)
                  Bell's Best (compilation of recipes from Ma Bell employees.. 1980's publishing but seems to be 60's and 70's recipes. Photocopied)
                  Taste of Aloha (hawaiian cooking)
                  The Complete Meat Cookbook, Bruce Aidell
                  The Well Filled Tortilla
                  Any number of Alton Brown cookbooks

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                  @ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org @DoomsdaysCW@kolektiva.social @stevewfolds@mastodon.world That "Bell's Best" sounds amazing. Where did you get it?

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                    @ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org @DoomsdaysCW@kolektiva.social @stevewfolds@mastodon.world That "Bell's Best" sounds amazing. Where did you get it?

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                    @driusan @DoomsdaysCW @stevewfolds Garage sale or library sale...

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                    • AI6YR BenA AI6YR Ben

                      @driusan @DoomsdaysCW @stevewfolds Garage sale or library sale...

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                      @driusan @DoomsdaysCW @stevewfolds ha, I was wrong, 1980's.

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                      • AI6YR BenA AI6YR Ben

                        @driusan @DoomsdaysCW @stevewfolds ha, I was wrong, 1980's.

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                        @driusan @DoomsdaysCW @stevewfolds

                        Stupid phone

                        Haven't tried this recipe, but... it's typical of the kinds of treasures you find in here, LOL...

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                        • AI6YR BenA AI6YR Ben

                          @driusan @DoomsdaysCW @stevewfolds

                          Stupid phone

                          Haven't tried this recipe, but... it's typical of the kinds of treasures you find in here, LOL...

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                          Here's one of my grandmother's cookbooks from 1930 - The Rumford Complete Cookbook by Elizabeth Haxworth Wallace. You can tell my grandmother made a lot of dropped cookies (by the smudges on the recipe pages)!

                          @ai6yr @driusan @stevewfolds

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                          • DoomsdaysCWD DoomsdaysCW

                            Here's one of my grandmother's cookbooks from 1930 - The Rumford Complete Cookbook by Elizabeth Haxworth Wallace. You can tell my grandmother made a lot of dropped cookies (by the smudges on the recipe pages)!

                            @ai6yr @driusan @stevewfolds

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                            @DoomsdaysCW @ai6yr @driusan @stevewfolds

                            Archive.org has it as well!

                            https://archive.org/details/rumfordcompletec0000lily/page/n6/mode/1up

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