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  • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

    I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

    How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

    Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

    Lynn D 🇨🇦L This user is from outside of this forum
    Lynn D 🇨🇦L This user is from outside of this forum
    Lynn D 🇨🇦
    wrote last edited by
    #55

    @taylorlorenz no algorithm and no ads means that you get to see the posts from the people that you follow, not who The Algorithm dictates. You can also move to another instance if
    without losing your followers, and if your instance is federated, you can “talk” to all of the other federated instances (that last one is something that I have had to explain to several people who have somehow been given the impression that you can only connect with people on your own instance).

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    • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

      I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

      How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

      Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

      Jonathan TJ This user is from outside of this forum
      Jonathan TJ This user is from outside of this forum
      Jonathan T
      wrote last edited by
      #56

      @taylorlorenz At the risk of quoting a monstrous human being, "Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…"

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      • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

        I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

        How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

        Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

        TheZorseT This user is from outside of this forum
        TheZorseT This user is from outside of this forum
        TheZorse
        wrote last edited by
        #57

        @taylorlorenz

        While it can be used for commercial purposes, the control rests with people, not corporations. In that sense it's true social media, rather than a profit-making or power-manipulating enterprise disguised as something else.

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        • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

          I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

          How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

          Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

          Meznor 🇨🇦🇮🇹🇪🇺M This user is from outside of this forum
          Meznor 🇨🇦🇮🇹🇪🇺M This user is from outside of this forum
          Meznor 🇨🇦🇮🇹🇪🇺
          wrote last edited by
          #58

          @taylorlorenz It *starts* with community (does not seek unsustainable growth, by default). Because hosts depend on the community to fund it, it can’t grow so big as to be exploited (limits to growth are useful to sustain meaningful community connections).

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          • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

            I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

            How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

            Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

            sodiboo :pride_heart:S This user is from outside of this forum
            sodiboo :pride_heart:S This user is from outside of this forum
            sodiboo :pride_heart:
            wrote last edited by
            #59

            @taylorlorenz@mastodon.social I think one aspect that can make it safer is the relatively small scale of each node in the network and the horizontal scaling of moderation. like, if there's something abhorrent that breaks my server's rules and I report it, then I know who will receive that report. I can talk to my instance moderators. and they're not moderating the entire network; just what reaches their instance. they need to do a lot less work to still deal with a significant chunk of abuse, compared to a monolithic social media platform.

            additionally, I can choose which instance I trust to manage that responsibility and what rules I agree with. there's no single unilateral team deciding what you can and can't post on the fediverse; if I disagree with my instance moderation I can talk to them yes, but I can also
            go somewhere else without having to find an entirely new platform with new faces. my new instance would let me access the same underlying network but a slightly different view of it with a slightly different vibe.

            not everyone
            will get along perfectly. a lot of people will want slightly different rules enforced on their social media platforms. decentralized moderation makes that possible.

            personally, I host my own instance. this does mean that I've received more abuse than I ever did when someone else was moderating my exposure to trolls. but I've only really blocked about a dozen domains and after that it's fine? and now, I'm left with a place that is my own. this is the ultimate tool of free expression. nobody can tell me what I can or can't post (besides my hosting provider). this is just a thing you can do on fedi. become ungovernable. this isn't like "One Weird Trick To Have No Accountability": if I post anhorrent things or behave badly, I will get blocked on a large scale by many instances; but as long as I'm chill , I still get to use the same social network with the added bonus that
            nobody can take my account away from me without warning. it's mine.

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            • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

              I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

              How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

              Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

              softproofS This user is from outside of this forum
              softproofS This user is from outside of this forum
              softproof
              wrote last edited by
              #60

              @taylorlorenz By proving to them that crowdsourcing can still beat AI-fluff, perhaps? And you're well on your way 👾

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              • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                PaulH This user is from outside of this forum
                PaulH This user is from outside of this forum
                Paul
                wrote last edited by
                #61

                @taylorlorenz

                No ads, no algorithm, admins who care (if you pick the right instance), a sense of community and control. You have it here, rather than the billionaires

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                • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                  I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                  How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                  Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                  YourShadowDaniY This user is from outside of this forum
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                  YourShadowDani
                  wrote last edited by
                  #62

                  @taylorlorenz

                  On decentralized social media (like Mastodon) there's no Algorithm making sure you see the optimal toxic engagement bait.

                  All you get for posts is do people like it recently?

                  Its like the good old days before big tech had their Algorithms dialed in to make you as addicted as possible.

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                  • MastodonM Mastodon

                    @taylorlorenz let us know how we can help - we think a lot of people are pretty tired of having their data mined, conversations sold, and commercial companies injecting inauthentic content into their timelines. Maybe that’s just us? Happy to have a chat if it would be useful.

                    Giorgio PasqualiniG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Giorgio Pasqualini
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                    #63

                    @Mastodon @taylorlorenz I think it is mostly used by european escaping from US tech, maybe like in reddit have posts be shown in the user language no matter what, like in reddit.

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                    • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                      I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                      How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                      Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                      FoxyLad :tinoflag:F This user is from outside of this forum
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                      FoxyLad :tinoflag:
                      wrote last edited by
                      #64

                      @taylorlorenz I compare it to email, with how people or organizations control their own servers. Then ask what they think email would be like if one company controlled all of it. And how much they would charge.

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                      • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                        I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                        How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                        Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #65

                        @taylorlorenz
                        - Community-driven, not profit-driven
                        - chose instance with rules that suit you
                        - the "for you" feed (list), that is actually made by you
                        - follow many other services/blogs from the one account (Pixelfed, Lemmy, etc.)

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                        • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                          I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                          How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                          Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                          Peter BrownP This user is from outside of this forum
                          Peter BrownP This user is from outside of this forum
                          Peter Brown
                          wrote last edited by
                          #66

                          @taylorlorenz we are in control- not the algorithms.
                          Other platforms thrive on conflict. Mastodon does not because people do not like it and it’s people who drive Mastodon timelines, not algorithms.

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                          • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                            I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                            How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                            Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                            M This user is from outside of this forum
                            M This user is from outside of this forum
                            Movie2468
                            wrote last edited by
                            #67

                            @taylorlorenz

                            To answer this, we should first understand why people don’t think it makes sense. Someone I know that dislikes big business, and uses X said: “I struggle to understand the basics of a decentralized social network, it seems oxymoronic except for extreme nerds”.

                            Take that as you will, but hopefully it is useful feedback.

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                            • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                              I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                              How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                              Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                              GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
                              GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
                              GhostOnTheHalfShell
                              wrote last edited by
                              #68

                              @taylorlorenz

                              The most concise way I describe the difference between commercial algorithm based platforms versus the fediverse.

                              In the former, you are presented with the illusion of a town square, it propagates content based on spectacle and “engagement”

                              In the latter, people are the algorithm as members of distinct communities, moderated by real people.

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                              • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

                                @taylorlorenz

                                The most concise way I describe the difference between commercial algorithm based platforms versus the fediverse.

                                In the former, you are presented with the illusion of a town square, it propagates content based on spectacle and “engagement”

                                In the latter, people are the algorithm as members of distinct communities, moderated by real people.

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                                GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                GhostOnTheHalfShell
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                                #69

                                @taylorlorenz

                                Centralized, commercial and algorithm based platforms are centralized command and control platforms.

                                The fediverse is a constellation of everything from individually hosted servers to the larger instances like mastodon dot social, and everything in between.

                                I would ask people to consider where do you think the greater liberty resides?

                                We have seen the kind of censorship that emerges on all of the large commercial platforms. It’s not possible in the fediverse.

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                                • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                  I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                  How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                  Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                                  Raymond RussellR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Raymond Russell
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #70

                                  @taylorlorenz
                                  Its nice Twitter.
                                  No adverts or algorithm.
                                  No one owns it.
                                  It's like lots of mini Twitters that can talk to each other.
                                  Each mini Twitter has its own rules and interests.
                                  You should join the one that best suits you.

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                                  • M Movie2468

                                    @taylorlorenz

                                    To answer this, we should first understand why people don’t think it makes sense. Someone I know that dislikes big business, and uses X said: “I struggle to understand the basics of a decentralized social network, it seems oxymoronic except for extreme nerds”.

                                    Take that as you will, but hopefully it is useful feedback.

                                    GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
                                    GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
                                    GhostOnTheHalfShell
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                                    #71

                                    @Movie2468 @taylorlorenz

                                    I would like to suggest then that they struggled to understand a market based economy or democracy

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                                    • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

                                      @taylorlorenz

                                      Centralized, commercial and algorithm based platforms are centralized command and control platforms.

                                      The fediverse is a constellation of everything from individually hosted servers to the larger instances like mastodon dot social, and everything in between.

                                      I would ask people to consider where do you think the greater liberty resides?

                                      We have seen the kind of censorship that emerges on all of the large commercial platforms. It’s not possible in the fediverse.

                                      2/2

                                      GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
                                      GhostOnTheHalfShellG This user is from outside of this forum
                                      GhostOnTheHalfShell
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                                      #72

                                      RE: https://masto.ai/@GhostOnTheHalfShell/110697014050821679

                                      @taylorlorenz

                                      Sometimes an image is worth 1000 words

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                                      • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                        I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                        How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                        Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                                        Will ClarkR This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Will ClarkR This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Will Clark
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #73

                                        @taylorlorenz Monopolies are bad and there's no reason why "posts" need to be owned by a monopoly. Fediverse is good for the same reason why email is good.

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                                        • Taylor LorenzT Taylor Lorenz

                                          I’ve been asked on TV hits and interviews lately to explain why decentralized social media is better, especially re: Mastodon.

                                          How would you explain the benefits of a platform like Mastodon and the fediverse to someone in just a few sentences? How would you make the argument that platforms like Mastodon allow for more free expression than big tech controlled apps?

                                          Would love to hear people’s thoughts! Trying to make my arguments most effective

                                          DBL This user is from outside of this forum
                                          DBL This user is from outside of this forum
                                          DB
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #74

                                          @taylorlorenz You control what you see in your feed and you control what you post. No propaganda, censorship, games, surveillance or trolls. How is that not better in every way?

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