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  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

    I'm also very curious if any cis people got the letter by mistake. It seems likely.

    Nearly all of the people who have been harassed in public over restrooms rules tend to be cis women who look a little butch or like a bowtie or something.

    This isn't a flaw it's a feature. Because part of the purpose is to make a gender dress and behavior code for adults.

    No men shall wear pink or nail polish. No women shall have whiskers on their chin or leave the house without a layer of foundation.

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    @futurebird This right here. I know so many people who are going to be harrassed because their physical appearance represents them differently than their sexual identity. It could easily turn into absolute mayhem and violent assaults.

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      I'm also very curious if any cis people got the letter by mistake. It seems likely.

      Nearly all of the people who have been harassed in public over restrooms rules tend to be cis women who look a little butch or like a bowtie or something.

      This isn't a flaw it's a feature. Because part of the purpose is to make a gender dress and behavior code for adults.

      No men shall wear pink or nail polish. No women shall have whiskers on their chin or leave the house without a layer of foundation.

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      @futurebird my best guess, the list is compiled from historical records of which Kansas residents have gotten the gender marker changed on their ID.

      Monstrous regardless.

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      • Roger BW 😷R Roger BW 😷

        @futurebird @Anke As they always have. It's the immigrants, it's the gays, it's the freethinkers, it's the heretics…

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        @RogerBW @futurebird @Anke

        "Its the predatory financiers and their friends... wait no only some of their friends!"

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        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

          The GOVERNMENT will tell you (yes you) how to be your gender correctly.

          That's all this is. It's bullshit.

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          @futurebird Yes, from reading that letter, they want to use state power to punish anyone who steps out of their assigned place.

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          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

            It's kind of obvious that what the Republican Kansas legislator would like to do is make being LGBT illegal. I find it somewhat promising that they have done something technical, creepy, and obnoxious instead. But they are pushing that boundary in the most obvious ways.

            They are still too scared to do what they really want. The public ought to be disgusted.

            I am.

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            @futurebird I want to ask bigots to read the science on the prenatal brain development that fixes gender identity & sexual orientation. But I'm also afraid they'll decide to order amniocentesis for every pregnant woman & try to "correct" intrauterine hormones to some cis template.

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            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

              I'm also very curious if any cis people got the letter by mistake. It seems likely.

              Nearly all of the people who have been harassed in public over restrooms rules tend to be cis women who look a little butch or like a bowtie or something.

              This isn't a flaw it's a feature. Because part of the purpose is to make a gender dress and behavior code for adults.

              No men shall wear pink or nail polish. No women shall have whiskers on their chin or leave the house without a layer of foundation.

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              #34

              @futurebird whether or not cis people got sent the letter, they sure as hell will be pulled over in 'random' traffic stops by especially hostile cops. women will get this worst, of course. and don't be surprised is cops start intentionally targeting cis women they want to to trap in a less public space

              cops already get away with literal murder on the basis of them having 'suspicions' about someone. you know what will happen if they're given more things to get 'suspicious' about

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              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                I'm also very curious if any cis people got the letter by mistake. It seems likely.

                Nearly all of the people who have been harassed in public over restrooms rules tend to be cis women who look a little butch or like a bowtie or something.

                This isn't a flaw it's a feature. Because part of the purpose is to make a gender dress and behavior code for adults.

                No men shall wear pink or nail polish. No women shall have whiskers on their chin or leave the house without a layer of foundation.

                William Canna-bassJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                @futurebird Sounds like a return to colonial times with rigid gender norms.

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  Don't get it twisted this attack on trans people in Kansas (how did they identify the people they sent those letters to? They have a list, the monsters.) is a trial, a test. Let them get away with it they will move on to the next smallest group they feel they could target without public backlash.

                  That is how this works.

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                  @futurebird easy to identify... database query... compare driver's license application and renewal records for any with a change to 'sex'. the addresses and such are all on file with the d.m.v. easy peasy.

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                  • Almost A FernB Almost A Fern

                    @futurebird my best guess, the list is compiled from historical records of which Kansas residents have gotten the gender marker changed on their ID.

                    Monstrous regardless.

                    Michael BuschM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @bruceiv @futurebird

                    There are people who are cis who have had the gender marker changed on their IDs to correct administrative errors.

                    They have gotten caught up in the current anti-trans moral panic too.

                    From Arizona last year: https://www.abc15.com/news/local-news/investigations/birth-certificate-controversy-keeps-mesa-14-year-old-off-boys-basketball-team

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                    • what's up with dana?D what's up with dana?

                      @futurebird I was wondering this too yesterday: how did they know to whom to send these letters? I suppose they have a record if you changed your license gender marker, but this seems broader than that. Creepy.

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                      @d_a_n_a @futurebird

                      No, that's correct (I'm a KS resident)--the DMV records show which licenses previously had the gender info changed, same for the birth certificate data with another agency.

                      The KS Supreme Court had previously ruled that changing one's gender on gov records had to be allowed, and this new law apparently does what's required to legally ban it again. While several other states also ban this, KS is the first state to claw back previously issued DLs and birth certificates.

                      BTW They sent the letters out on the 23rd and the law took effect immediately on the 26th with no grace period to allow people to comply, so they now do not have a valid driver's license.

                      Driving without a valid license carries a fine and possible jail time. There is no doubt they deliberately wanted to punish trans people who had changed their DL, by making it impossible to drive legally until they get a new DL, which takes time to process.

                      (paywalled but can be bypassed by going into Reader view): https://www2.ljworld.com/news/state-region/2026/feb/23/thousands-of-kansas-drivers-licenses-birth-certificates-set-to-become-invalid-this-week-as-new-transgender-law-takes-effect/

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                      • LeaL Lea

                        @d_a_n_a @futurebird

                        No, that's correct (I'm a KS resident)--the DMV records show which licenses previously had the gender info changed, same for the birth certificate data with another agency.

                        The KS Supreme Court had previously ruled that changing one's gender on gov records had to be allowed, and this new law apparently does what's required to legally ban it again. While several other states also ban this, KS is the first state to claw back previously issued DLs and birth certificates.

                        BTW They sent the letters out on the 23rd and the law took effect immediately on the 26th with no grace period to allow people to comply, so they now do not have a valid driver's license.

                        Driving without a valid license carries a fine and possible jail time. There is no doubt they deliberately wanted to punish trans people who had changed their DL, by making it impossible to drive legally until they get a new DL, which takes time to process.

                        (paywalled but can be bypassed by going into Reader view): https://www2.ljworld.com/news/state-region/2026/feb/23/thousands-of-kansas-drivers-licenses-birth-certificates-set-to-become-invalid-this-week-as-new-transgender-law-takes-effect/

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                        @leadore @futurebird Lea do you think they also scooped up transfolk from other states who had valid ID and who had earlier move into KS? Or is this totally a matter of what can be seen in KS govt. records?

                        Really shitty thing to do. Serves only to endanger people.

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                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                          Don't get it twisted this attack on trans people in Kansas (how did they identify the people they sent those letters to? They have a list, the monsters.) is a trial, a test. Let them get away with it they will move on to the next smallest group they feel they could target without public backlash.

                          That is how this works.

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                          @futurebird We should not miss the fact that one of the forces driving this (there is more than one) is religious fundamentalism. I grew up in that world and I recognize it when I see it. The strong campaign against all LGBTQ rights in a place like Uganda was created and pushed along by American fundamentalists. They tried their insidious agenda elsewhere first, before bringing it home. If you want to know what's in store, look to a place like Uganda.

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                          • what's up with dana?D what's up with dana?

                            @leadore @futurebird Lea do you think they also scooped up transfolk from other states who had valid ID and who had earlier move into KS? Or is this totally a matter of what can be seen in KS govt. records?

                            Really shitty thing to do. Serves only to endanger people.

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                            @d_a_n_a @futurebird

                            Since they don't have authority over what other states do or what other state's licenses show, this should only be relevant to KS licenses and KS government records. At least I haven't heard or read anything indicating otherwise.

                            BUT another thing to be aware of is that this bill also bans anyone from using a bathroom marked as for other than one's gender assigned at birth. IMO this is just as bad if not worse. I expect bad things to happen because there are always those people out there who want to make bad things happen.

                            I was actually surprised to learn that the bill was going to invalidate documents because it was always called "the bathroom bill" and all I ever read or heard about it was about the bathroom aspect of it. I don't think I ever once heard anything about driver's licenses and birth certificates being invalidated.

                            It's all about taking away trans rights and women's rights and implementing christian nationalism.

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                            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                              The GOVERNMENT will tell you (yes you) how to be your gender correctly.

                              That's all this is. It's bullshit.

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                              @futurebird this shit is exactly why we threw bricks at stonewall 😔

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                              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                I'm also very curious if any cis people got the letter by mistake. It seems likely.

                                Nearly all of the people who have been harassed in public over restrooms rules tend to be cis women who look a little butch or like a bowtie or something.

                                This isn't a flaw it's a feature. Because part of the purpose is to make a gender dress and behavior code for adults.

                                No men shall wear pink or nail polish. No women shall have whiskers on their chin or leave the house without a layer of foundation.

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                                @futurebird
                                I expect they kept track of people who have asked to have it changed in the past.

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                                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                  Don't get it twisted this attack on trans people in Kansas (how did they identify the people they sent those letters to? They have a list, the monsters.) is a trial, a test. Let them get away with it they will move on to the next smallest group they feel they could target without public backlash.

                                  That is how this works.

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                                  @futurebird@sauropods.winHow How fascism works

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                                  • Michael BuschM Michael Busch

                                    @bruceiv @futurebird

                                    There are people who are cis who have had the gender marker changed on their IDs to correct administrative errors.

                                    They have gotten caught up in the current anti-trans moral panic too.

                                    From Arizona last year: https://www.abc15.com/news/local-news/investigations/birth-certificate-controversy-keeps-mesa-14-year-old-off-boys-basketball-team

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                                    @michael_w_busch

                                    Sorry, are we in a cartoon? Is this world actually an early Nickelodeon toon and this whole timeline is a prelude to this fantastical premise?

                                    @bruceiv @futurebird

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                                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                                      Are you an "LGB" person ?
                                      Are you enjoying an upstanding gay marriage with a white picket fence?
                                      Are you a black American (oh wow) but not (oh no no) an immigrant ?

                                      Are you reading the room ?

                                      We're next! We are next.

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                                      @futurebird … Yup, and following those groups (or interleaved) it will be Jews, Women (all Women: in this eschatology they're just livestock for breeding), non-Christian (the right kind of Christian) men, and political dissidents.

                                      If they get their way, the USA after the Great Downsizing will have about a third of its current population, and the electorate will be less than 10% of that because the rest will be chattels of one type or another.

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        @futurebird … Yup, and following those groups (or interleaved) it will be Jews, Women (all Women: in this eschatology they're just livestock for breeding), non-Christian (the right kind of Christian) men, and political dissidents.

                                        If they get their way, the USA after the Great Downsizing will have about a third of its current population, and the electorate will be less than 10% of that because the rest will be chattels of one type or another.

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                                        @cstross @futurebird
                                        Speaking of electorate, cancelling people's driving licenses is an attack on that now, isn't it

                                        #uspol

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                                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                          @futurebird … Yup, and following those groups (or interleaved) it will be Jews, Women (all Women: in this eschatology they're just livestock for breeding), non-Christian (the right kind of Christian) men, and political dissidents.

                                          If they get their way, the USA after the Great Downsizing will have about a third of its current population, and the electorate will be less than 10% of that because the rest will be chattels of one type or another.

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                                          @cstross

                                          And they will try to get the world to do the same, so they can rule unopposed.

                                          @futurebird

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