@carnage4life developers going to be begging for the ol days of pseudo-code with multiple black boxes with missing or conflicting logic

@carnage4life I had the same experience earlier this month

My boss essentially vibe coded their own version of jira with some customizations to replace assigning a proper PM to a project we’re launching

We had to reassign a dev for several days to even figure out how to pry the thing off of replit and stand it up in our own aws vpc.

It was never architected for cloud. It’s exactly the same as the 30-something docker mini-apps I built at home.

The difference is I would never take them to work and be like “this is part of our infra now!”

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My previous comment still stands

Shafik Yaghmour (@shafik@hachyderm.io)

@carnage4life@mas.to Folks will rediscover Big Balls of Mud.

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@carnage4life Not really a new problem. Had a boss in 1999 who rewrote the core of our Java code “over the weekend” and we suffered through it for a while. He almost threw a fit when I eventually refactored it so we weren’t shipping the entire codebase as the client applet.

And it gave the CTO (one of those “CTO only bc they were the early-joiner”) confidence to drop a similar rearchitecture without consulting the team.

Maybe this is why I am not interested in vibe coding…

@raineer and yet it is still probably an improvement over Jira...

@carnage4life hot take from someone that loves well-designed, working code: answering product questions is where the value is. I used to think that product stuff was easy and low-value in my younger days, too, so no blame on the OP.

Engineers are expensive, and making engineers build the wrong thing is expensive.

@carnage4life I used to feast on user developed Access apps.

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Poorly designed products can limp along a long time before requiring total replacement.

The problem is that it works, you spend all your time putting out fires instead of building new features and innovating.

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@carnage4life i can't program but this doesn't give me the confidence I can do it via AI either lol