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I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor.

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  • Shouty personC Shouty person

    I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

    I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

    #indieauthor

    Chuck MunsonC This user is from outside of this forum
    Chuck MunsonC This user is from outside of this forum
    Chuck Munson
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    #5

    @clacksee I've worked as an editor a few times over the years, once editing a magazine with national newsstand circulation. But I stopped reading self-published novels after reading a review copy sent by an author who had written an underground classic that was quite good. His follow-up novel was so bad, with an ending that felt unfinished. I was like, did he have an editor? Did he just run the novel past family and friends who told him what he wanted to hear. Trust the editorial process.

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    • Shouty personC Shouty person

      I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

      I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

      #indieauthor

      teresa_athomeT This user is from outside of this forum
      teresa_athomeT This user is from outside of this forum
      teresa_athome
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      #6

      @clacksee I didn't realize how important editors are to my reading experience until I read books published without the benefit of editing.

      There were books I wanted to like, but were too incoherent to finish (in one case I mapped out the action locations and dates in a notebook in order to form a timeline). I am grateful to editors every day.

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      • Shouty personC Shouty person

        I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

        I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

        #indieauthor

        Philippa CowderoyF This user is from outside of this forum
        Philippa CowderoyF This user is from outside of this forum
        Philippa Cowderoy
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        #7

        @clacksee oh look, "advice" for the competition

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        • Shouty personC Shouty person

          I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

          I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

          #indieauthor

          Dr Ro SmithR This user is from outside of this forum
          Dr Ro SmithR This user is from outside of this forum
          Dr Ro Smith
          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          @clacksee Oh wow, that's a red flag.

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          • Shouty personC Shouty person

            I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

            I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

            #indieauthor

            CavyherdC This user is from outside of this forum
            CavyherdC This user is from outside of this forum
            Cavyherd
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            @clacksee

            Does he give...a reason for this opinion?

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            • Chuck MunsonC Chuck Munson

              @clacksee I've worked as an editor a few times over the years, once editing a magazine with national newsstand circulation. But I stopped reading self-published novels after reading a review copy sent by an author who had written an underground classic that was quite good. His follow-up novel was so bad, with an ending that felt unfinished. I was like, did he have an editor? Did he just run the novel past family and friends who told him what he wanted to hear. Trust the editorial process.

              Shouty personC This user is from outside of this forum
              Shouty personC This user is from outside of this forum
              Shouty person
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              #10

              @chuck
              I’ve worked as an editor. I still know I need multiple rounds of editing. I cannot see my own mistakes – never mind my own awkwardness or repetition.

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              • teresa_athomeT teresa_athome

                @clacksee I didn't realize how important editors are to my reading experience until I read books published without the benefit of editing.

                There were books I wanted to like, but were too incoherent to finish (in one case I mapped out the action locations and dates in a notebook in order to form a timeline). I am grateful to editors every day.

                Shouty personC This user is from outside of this forum
                Shouty personC This user is from outside of this forum
                Shouty person
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                #11

                @teresa_athome
                I’ve read some that were riddled with typos, some where the authors clearly didn’t understand the meaning of some of the words they used, and plenty that read like first drafts.

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                • Dr Ro SmithR Dr Ro Smith

                  @clacksee Oh wow, that's a red flag.

                  Shouty personC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Shouty person
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                  @Rhube
                  Right?

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                  • CavyherdC Cavyherd

                    @clacksee

                    Does he give...a reason for this opinion?

                    Shouty personC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Shouty person
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                    @cavyherd

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                    • Shouty personC Shouty person

                      @Rhube
                      Right?

                      Dr Ro SmithR This user is from outside of this forum
                      Dr Ro SmithR This user is from outside of this forum
                      Dr Ro Smith
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                      #14

                      @clacksee Yeah, it's one thing to not be able to afford an editor, but if you genuinely believe you're better off without a second set of eyes, you are too overconfident to spot your own mistakes.

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                      • Dr Ro SmithR Dr Ro Smith

                        @clacksee Yeah, it's one thing to not be able to afford an editor, but if you genuinely believe you're better off without a second set of eyes, you are too overconfident to spot your own mistakes.

                        Shouty personC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Shouty person
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                        @Rhube
                        If someone can’t afford an editor, I’d encourage them to swap services or beg for favours.

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                        • Shouty personC Shouty person

                          I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

                          I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

                          #indieauthor

                          ChaucerburntC This user is from outside of this forum
                          ChaucerburntC This user is from outside of this forum
                          Chaucerburnt
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                          @clacksee I just read the post and, uh...

                          There are a couple of subtler errors but these three are the most glaring.

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                          • Shouty personC Shouty person

                            I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

                            I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

                            #indieauthor

                            Ian MalcolmI This user is from outside of this forum
                            Ian MalcolmI This user is from outside of this forum
                            Ian Malcolm
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #17

                            @clacksee

                            Eep. Yeah, that's... a whole lot of Wrong right there. 😬

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                            • Shouty personC Shouty person

                              I just read a blog post by a well-known indie author who says that one of the stupidest things am indie author can do is hire an editor. He also says not to use beta readers.

                              I, erm… Please don’t be like that guy.

                              #indieauthor

                              Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              Jürgen Hubert
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #18

                              @clacksee

                              Geeze. I not only use beta readers, I use alpha readers as well! Every pair of eyes that reads my manuscript and gives me feedback improves the book!

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                              • ChaucerburntC Chaucerburnt

                                @clacksee I just read the post and, uh...

                                There are a couple of subtler errors but these three are the most glaring.

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                                Shouty personC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Shouty person
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                                #19

                                @chaucerburnt
                                Yeah. He definitely doesn’t need an editor, eh.

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                                • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                                  @clacksee

                                  Geeze. I not only use beta readers, I use alpha readers as well! Every pair of eyes that reads my manuscript and gives me feedback improves the book!

                                  Shouty personC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Shouty person
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                                  @juergen_hubert
                                  According to him that’s writing by committee and actively making your books worse.

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                                  • Shouty personC Shouty person

                                    @juergen_hubert
                                    According to him that’s writing by committee and actively making your books worse.

                                    Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Jürgen Hubert
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                                    #21

                                    @clacksee

                                    As someone with scientific training who has had experiences with peer review, this attitude is actively _painful_ for me.

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