@stux Tesla is a shit company producing shit cars and FSD software that kills people.

If it ever gets around to producing those Optimus robots, they'll be shit too. We've already seen the demos; it took ages to decide to go to the kitchen to get a drink.

SpaceX took $3bn from NASA. Musk said in 2019 they'd be putting humans back on the moon in 2025. They're 6 years late and can't even get a rocket into orbit.

It's embarrassing that anyone treats Musk as anything more than a bullshit merchant.