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  • Steven D. Brewer 🏳️‍⚧️S Steven D. Brewer 🏳️‍⚧️

    @cstross And, just for reference, Target (pronounced "targé") is where Walmart shoppers go when they want to feel upscale. If you really want to experience the true depths of despair, go to Ocean State Job Lot, which is stocked with stuff that didn't sell anywhere else. Or was returned. https://www.oceanstatejoblot.com/

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    @stevendbrewer @cstross

    Then we have the liquidator warehouses that set up in big, dis-used industrial buildings around here. We called one of them the "Rat Palace" in recognition of the species present that solidly outnumbered the human staff.

    It was the absolute tail end of the retail food chain and one of the most depressing experiences you can ask for. To think that every single item piled up in the multiple hectares of factory floor space was somebody's retail design idea, seen
    through to production and marketed.

    If you needed tiles for the bathroom, however ...

    Ocean State Job Lot looks infinitely fancier: it has a web site and probably even tracks its inventory.

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    • Steven D. Brewer 🏳️‍⚧️S Steven D. Brewer 🏳️‍⚧️

      @cstross And, just for reference, Target (pronounced "targé") is where Walmart shoppers go when they want to feel upscale. If you really want to experience the true depths of despair, go to Ocean State Job Lot, which is stocked with stuff that didn't sell anywhere else. Or was returned. https://www.oceanstatejoblot.com/

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      @stevendbrewer @cstross as a former resident of the Former US, I will say that I was at least *willing* to go into Target, because it was far more civilized, people controlled their children, and the employees generally did not seem in existential despair.

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      • AdministratorM Administrator

        @cstross @stevendbrewer Very close, at least in use! But even the worse scrumpy is made with more love than Boone's Farm.

        Boone's Farm is basically Kool-aid mixed with a small amount of pure ethanol. Absolutely no love in it at all.

        Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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        @mdm @stevendbrewer Whereas scrumpy is made with love and also scrumpy isn't ready to drink until the rat who drowned in the vat has fully dissolved.

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        • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

          @jbenjamint @cstross @david @stevendbrewer @jsl @bweller

          Yeah, but in a weird quirk of American service culture, a lot of American shopper expect service people to be _servile_. "The customer is always right!", and all that.

          farhaven 🇪🇺F This user is from outside of this forum
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          @juergen_hubert Funny thing about that, the complete saying goes something like "The customer is always right _in matters of taste_".

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          • J JdeBP

            @david

            Pales in comparison to how spectacularly #Walmart failed in #Germany.

            The U.S.A. management managed to fall afoul of regulations that were meant to prevent the Stasi from happening again.

            They instituted policies of forced smiling at customers, group cheer sessions, and employees required to report any employees who dated other employees.

            Reporting on people's personal lives to the authorities is a bit of a no-no in modern Germany.

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            German upholds rights of Wal-Mart staff

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            (www.ft.com)

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            @stevendbrewer @cstross @JdeBP @david Oh, I remember it well. In Germany for “Whistleblower”, read “Denunziant”.

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            • FeòragF Feòrag

              @JdeBP @david @cstross @stevendbrewer Paywalled.

              Jernej Simončič �J This user is from outside of this forum
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              @feorag @JdeBP @david @cstross @stevendbrewer Bypass: https://archive.is/TeuPs (but the article is not very interesting)

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              • Tall SimonT Tall Simon

                @stevendbrewer @cstross

                Then we have the liquidator warehouses that set up in big, dis-used industrial buildings around here. We called one of them the "Rat Palace" in recognition of the species present that solidly outnumbered the human staff.

                It was the absolute tail end of the retail food chain and one of the most depressing experiences you can ask for. To think that every single item piled up in the multiple hectares of factory floor space was somebody's retail design idea, seen
                through to production and marketed.

                If you needed tiles for the bathroom, however ...

                Ocean State Job Lot looks infinitely fancier: it has a web site and probably even tracks its inventory.

                Ryan FinnieR This user is from outside of this forum
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                @TallSimon @stevendbrewer @cstross My contribution to the vibe: Harbor Freight Tools. I describe it as a cross between Trader Joe's and Spirit Halloween. It's got a lot of in-house tool brands and has an "upscale but value" fanaticism similar to Trader Joe's.

                But the locations themselves always look like they took an old K-Mart carcass which had been sitting there for years, added dividers to make it about 1/4 the area, installed third-hand shelving, hung a HARBOR FREIGHT sign and called it a day. (I'm oddly specific here because there's a location in Reno which did literally that.)

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                • Ryan FinnieR Ryan Finnie

                  @TallSimon @stevendbrewer @cstross My contribution to the vibe: Harbor Freight Tools. I describe it as a cross between Trader Joe's and Spirit Halloween. It's got a lot of in-house tool brands and has an "upscale but value" fanaticism similar to Trader Joe's.

                  But the locations themselves always look like they took an old K-Mart carcass which had been sitting there for years, added dividers to make it about 1/4 the area, installed third-hand shelving, hung a HARBOR FREIGHT sign and called it a day. (I'm oddly specific here because there's a location in Reno which did literally that.)

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                  @ryan @TallSimon @stevendbrewer Reminder that NONE of the businesses you named exist in Europe (including the UK). I visited a Trader Joe's and a Spirit Halloween while visiting the USA, but neither of the others. Your metaphors need localization!

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    @ryan @TallSimon @stevendbrewer Reminder that NONE of the businesses you named exist in Europe (including the UK). I visited a Trader Joe's and a Spirit Halloween while visiting the USA, but neither of the others. Your metaphors need localization!

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                    @cstross @TallSimon @stevendbrewer Interesting! While I knew both Trader Joe's and Spirit Halloween were US only, I assumed their defining attributes were world-known, if only for the memes which have escaped the containment of US culture.

                    Trader Joe's: Smaller scaled grocery store (compared to US supermarkets), almost all white label store brands, "hipster value" fanbase. Owned by one of the Aldi's (can't remember which), actually.

                    Spirit Halloween: Pop-up seasonal retailer, tends to rent abandoned retail space, does the absolute minimum to make the space usable, and sells costumes and stuff for a month or so before re-abandoning it.

                    Oh, and K-Mart: Department store chain, mostly went out of business decades ago.

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                    • Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @faduda @jbenjamint @david @stevendbrewer @tautology I haven't been into a Tesco for at least a year. They've gone downhill a long way over the past 20 years since they finished gobbling up every high street in the UK.

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