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I'm not a car person, so I never really paid attention to car makes or models before.

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  • Anarcho-DaddyR Anarcho-Daddy

    @alice this is a really excellent vignette.. good writing!

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    @rubixhelix thank you. I like to think I can write pretty sometimes.

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      Just to be explicit, that post was about how all the institutionalized/everyday/inherent sexism, racism, homophobia, bigotry, etc. is invisible to most folx until it directly impacts them.

      Just like I don't see 99% of the racism that #BlackMastodon does until someone points an example out to me, and just like I would've told you that I don't know anyone who drives a red Ford Focus until I started driving one myself.

      It's fucking everywhere...

      And to those it affects, it's just the background noise of existing while black/queer/femme/disabled/neurodivergent, and so on.

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      @alice I did actually understand your later point, and I am sorry if I seemed obtuse. However, I do tend to see patterns of racism, sexism, bigotry, and so-called phobias (which are actually arseholery in a trite package). I am #ActuallyAutistic, also. I don't need to be smacked in the face to see prejudice.

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        Just to be explicit, that post was about how all the institutionalized/everyday/inherent sexism, racism, homophobia, bigotry, etc. is invisible to most folx until it directly impacts them.

        Just like I don't see 99% of the racism that #BlackMastodon does until someone points an example out to me, and just like I would've told you that I don't know anyone who drives a red Ford Focus until I started driving one myself.

        It's fucking everywhere...

        And to those it affects, it's just the background noise of existing while black/queer/femme/disabled/neurodivergent, and so on.

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        @alice Last year we discovered my partner was allergic to (among many other things) a very specific ingredient found in a lot of soap products (shampoo, conditioner, dish soap, laundry detergent, moisturizer, etc.) Sometimes it's not even on the ingredients list! Even products specifically meant to be hypoallergenic and for sensitive skin.

        Also queer, disabled, food sensitivities and limitations...

        Yeah. This shit is real.

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        • Bruce HeerssenB Bruce Heerssen

          @bjb @alice

          There are a lot of people who don't see it in the physical world either. Women often don't talk about these things in public. I'm not victim blaming. There's lots of reasons for that, not least of which is a credible fear of retaliation. Probably other reasons that I'm not aware of, too.

          Men, of course, rarely see gendered abuse and so can ignore or deny it if they choose. Even abusers, incredibly, do this.

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          @bruce @bjb @alice

          Efforts to discuss examples of bigotry or harassment will often get you redirected to HR or suggestions for therapy, that's how bad the deliberate blindness of privilege works

          The physical health problems that arise from social ecosystems of unacknowledged white supremacy.

          People with high blood sugars & pre-diabetes despite good dietary & exercise habits.

          Young POC with heart attacks.

          Cortisol overload from the stress of being in an environment of unwarranted hate

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            I'm not a car person, so I never really paid attention to car makes or models before. Sure, I knew that there were Hondas and Hyundais, but unless someone was actively pointing them out, I couldn't tell you which was which.

            Then I became the owner of a little red Ford Focus, and I started driving it around.

            Next thing I knew, I was spotting them *everywhere*. I'd come out of the grocer and there'd be identical ones parked on both sides of me! Hell, I eventually got a window decal so I could more easily tell which was mine πŸ˜‹

            A couple years ago I discovered I was lactose intolerant, andβ€”bear with me, these stories are connectedβ€”I started keeping lactaid with me wherever I went (just to be safe). I started paying attention to just how much dairy was in things, and wow, spoiler: it's in like *everything* πŸ˜…

            Over the past couple years, I've gotten pretty used to being lactose intolerant. I keep lactase handy, and I watch out for things with "too much dairy". It's just become background noiseβ€”like noticing other Ford Focuses (Foci?). It's just part of my life now.

            A couple months ago I got propositioned by a creep in my hotel's lobby.

            A couple weeks ago I had slurs yelled at me as I walked down the street with my mom.

            A couple days ago someone told me to kill myself in a DM.

            Every day, someone says "really? I don't see stuff like that here".

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            @alice

            Off topic, but I have a friend who is lactose intolerant.

            She grew up on a dairy farm.

            Fate is a cruel bastard.

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              I'm not a car person, so I never really paid attention to car makes or models before. Sure, I knew that there were Hondas and Hyundais, but unless someone was actively pointing them out, I couldn't tell you which was which.

              Then I became the owner of a little red Ford Focus, and I started driving it around.

              Next thing I knew, I was spotting them *everywhere*. I'd come out of the grocer and there'd be identical ones parked on both sides of me! Hell, I eventually got a window decal so I could more easily tell which was mine πŸ˜‹

              A couple years ago I discovered I was lactose intolerant, andβ€”bear with me, these stories are connectedβ€”I started keeping lactaid with me wherever I went (just to be safe). I started paying attention to just how much dairy was in things, and wow, spoiler: it's in like *everything* πŸ˜…

              Over the past couple years, I've gotten pretty used to being lactose intolerant. I keep lactase handy, and I watch out for things with "too much dairy". It's just become background noiseβ€”like noticing other Ford Focuses (Foci?). It's just part of my life now.

              A couple months ago I got propositioned by a creep in my hotel's lobby.

              A couple weeks ago I had slurs yelled at me as I walked down the street with my mom.

              A couple days ago someone told me to kill myself in a DM.

              Every day, someone says "really? I don't see stuff like that here".

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              @alice i think part of the issue is the weird privacy settings - i can reply to a public post with a DM or "followers only" post that's visible to *my* followers not those of the person I'm replying to. Presumably if I'm a serial harasser, I'm not going to have a lot of normal decent people among my followers.

              And from my victim's POV they made a public post and got threats or abuse in reply and nobody is standing up for them.

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                @alice i think part of the issue is the weird privacy settings - i can reply to a public post with a DM or "followers only" post that's visible to *my* followers not those of the person I'm replying to. Presumably if I'm a serial harasser, I'm not going to have a lot of normal decent people among my followers.

                And from my victim's POV they made a public post and got threats or abuse in reply and nobody is standing up for them.

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                @alice in that moment the victim is going to be understandably shocked and triggered, not paying close attention to subtle UI elements telling them that everyone else in the thread probably can't see the abuse they're facing.

                I don't have a solution to the problem, but I see it as a problem with the mechanics of the protocol. Changing the protocol wouldn't make abuse go away of course but it might help a bit.

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                  I'm not a car person, so I never really paid attention to car makes or models before. Sure, I knew that there were Hondas and Hyundais, but unless someone was actively pointing them out, I couldn't tell you which was which.

                  Then I became the owner of a little red Ford Focus, and I started driving it around.

                  Next thing I knew, I was spotting them *everywhere*. I'd come out of the grocer and there'd be identical ones parked on both sides of me! Hell, I eventually got a window decal so I could more easily tell which was mine πŸ˜‹

                  A couple years ago I discovered I was lactose intolerant, andβ€”bear with me, these stories are connectedβ€”I started keeping lactaid with me wherever I went (just to be safe). I started paying attention to just how much dairy was in things, and wow, spoiler: it's in like *everything* πŸ˜…

                  Over the past couple years, I've gotten pretty used to being lactose intolerant. I keep lactase handy, and I watch out for things with "too much dairy". It's just become background noiseβ€”like noticing other Ford Focuses (Foci?). It's just part of my life now.

                  A couple months ago I got propositioned by a creep in my hotel's lobby.

                  A couple weeks ago I had slurs yelled at me as I walked down the street with my mom.

                  A couple days ago someone told me to kill myself in a DM.

                  Every day, someone says "really? I don't see stuff like that here".

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                  @alice I only hope I last as long as my 1993 Ford Escort did - 545,000 kms! Like me, it's moving parts began to freeze up over time so that only the driver door would open. But it kept moving and stayed active!

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                    Just to be explicit, that post was about how all the institutionalized/everyday/inherent sexism, racism, homophobia, bigotry, etc. is invisible to most folx until it directly impacts them.

                    Just like I don't see 99% of the racism that #BlackMastodon does until someone points an example out to me, and just like I would've told you that I don't know anyone who drives a red Ford Focus until I started driving one myself.

                    It's fucking everywhere...

                    And to those it affects, it's just the background noise of existing while black/queer/femme/disabled/neurodivergent, and so on.

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                    @alice
                    This is exactly why I follow the fediblock hashtag. People have valid criticisms of that as a system to deal with bad actors, but I use it to understand the background level of harassment that happens around here. It's not a perfect system, but at least it keeps me somewhat aware of shit that never touches me personally.

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                      I'm not a car person, so I never really paid attention to car makes or models before. Sure, I knew that there were Hondas and Hyundais, but unless someone was actively pointing them out, I couldn't tell you which was which.

                      Then I became the owner of a little red Ford Focus, and I started driving it around.

                      Next thing I knew, I was spotting them *everywhere*. I'd come out of the grocer and there'd be identical ones parked on both sides of me! Hell, I eventually got a window decal so I could more easily tell which was mine πŸ˜‹

                      A couple years ago I discovered I was lactose intolerant, andβ€”bear with me, these stories are connectedβ€”I started keeping lactaid with me wherever I went (just to be safe). I started paying attention to just how much dairy was in things, and wow, spoiler: it's in like *everything* πŸ˜…

                      Over the past couple years, I've gotten pretty used to being lactose intolerant. I keep lactase handy, and I watch out for things with "too much dairy". It's just become background noiseβ€”like noticing other Ford Focuses (Foci?). It's just part of my life now.

                      A couple months ago I got propositioned by a creep in my hotel's lobby.

                      A couple weeks ago I had slurs yelled at me as I walked down the street with my mom.

                      A couple days ago someone told me to kill myself in a DM.

                      Every day, someone says "really? I don't see stuff like that here".

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                      @alice
                      I absolutely agree, having had similar (but very different) experiences with race-based discrimination. Let's just say that I'm "one of the good ones."

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