I've been thinking a lot recently about #PeerTube, #Loops, #Bandwagon, and other platforms in the #Fediverse that are geared around artists.
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I’ve been thinking a lot recently about #PeerTube, #Loops, #Bandwagon, and other platforms in the #Fediverse that are geared around artists. I might get flamed for this, and you’re welcome to disagree, but I think the network is in dire need of having support for commerce.
Not “Big Capitalism” commerce, but the ability for people to buy and sell things, support projects, and commission their favorite creators to keep making more stuff.
The Fediverse and Content Creation: Monetization
Sure, we have open source, federated replacements for Instagram, Tiktok, and YouTube. How do we get creators to use this stuff? One consideration involves the ability to pay for things.
deadsuperhero (deadsuperhero.com)
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I’ve been thinking a lot recently about #PeerTube, #Loops, #Bandwagon, and other platforms in the #Fediverse that are geared around artists. I might get flamed for this, and you’re welcome to disagree, but I think the network is in dire need of having support for commerce.
Not “Big Capitalism” commerce, but the ability for people to buy and sell things, support projects, and commission their favorite creators to keep making more stuff.
The Fediverse and Content Creation: Monetization
Sure, we have open source, federated replacements for Instagram, Tiktok, and YouTube. How do we get creators to use this stuff? One consideration involves the ability to pay for things.
deadsuperhero (deadsuperhero.com)
@deadsuperhero I have bought things from people on the fediverse and commissioned things from several other people on the fediverse to keep making more stuff. I see people on the fediverse selling stuff every day.
I'm not sure you've really made the case for why you think these things need to happen on-platform, putting stuff like "dealing with taxes," "dealing with fraud" and "dealing with copyright violation" etc on the plates of platform administrators who already have too much to do.
It doesn't really seem like you've thought through what adding revenue and commerce to these platforms really entails.
To me it sounds like you're really making two arguments simultaneously: the first is that we need to financially incentivise people to join the fediverse and perform here, and the second is that people need to be able to support each other by buying and selling and commissioning.
Only the first of those arguments requires monetization of the platform, so it kinda seems like you're lumping those other things in to kind of support your main argument. (That we need to "monetize" so that we can attract TikTok and YouTube stars, who expect to be paid.)
Is it really that important to entice people who don't want to publish here to do so?
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I’ve been thinking a lot recently about #PeerTube, #Loops, #Bandwagon, and other platforms in the #Fediverse that are geared around artists. I might get flamed for this, and you’re welcome to disagree, but I think the network is in dire need of having support for commerce.
Not “Big Capitalism” commerce, but the ability for people to buy and sell things, support projects, and commission their favorite creators to keep making more stuff.
The Fediverse and Content Creation: Monetization
Sure, we have open source, federated replacements for Instagram, Tiktok, and YouTube. How do we get creators to use this stuff? One consideration involves the ability to pay for things.
deadsuperhero (deadsuperhero.com)
In particular, we need some framework that can replace Facebook business pages. These replace business web pages in much of the world, especially for small businesses.
They also need to be able to connect with assorted payment systems, of course.
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@deadsuperhero I have bought things from people on the fediverse and commissioned things from several other people on the fediverse to keep making more stuff. I see people on the fediverse selling stuff every day.
I'm not sure you've really made the case for why you think these things need to happen on-platform, putting stuff like "dealing with taxes," "dealing with fraud" and "dealing with copyright violation" etc on the plates of platform administrators who already have too much to do.
It doesn't really seem like you've thought through what adding revenue and commerce to these platforms really entails.
To me it sounds like you're really making two arguments simultaneously: the first is that we need to financially incentivise people to join the fediverse and perform here, and the second is that people need to be able to support each other by buying and selling and commissioning.
Only the first of those arguments requires monetization of the platform, so it kinda seems like you're lumping those other things in to kind of support your main argument. (That we need to "monetize" so that we can attract TikTok and YouTube stars, who expect to be paid.)
Is it really that important to entice people who don't want to publish here to do so?
We don't need to look to TikTok and so forth as inspiration for "monetizing the #FediVerse ".
Instead, think of small online businesses. My favorite example of this is the #ttrpg industry - the majority of companies are very small indeed.
And for them, it is vital that they can interact with their fans and customers. On #Facebook , they can do that via Facebook Business Pages, which provide a feed that regular Facebook users can interact with.
I want that kind of thing for the Fediverse as well.
