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#Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state.

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  • πŸ…°πŸ…»πŸ…ΈπŸ…²πŸ…΄  (πŸŒˆπŸ¦„)A πŸ…°πŸ…»πŸ…ΈπŸ…²πŸ…΄ (πŸŒˆπŸ¦„)

    #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

    The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

    Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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    #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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    wrote last edited by
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    @alice I regularly think about the people and places around Kansas City I miss. The current politics there leave me with the feeling I'll never see them again in person.

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    • WesDymW WesDym

      @weirdone Under this law, any DL that has a gender marker different from your birth certificate becomes invalid TODAY. Use of it incurs a fine, and can also include jail time. It also incurs an automatic 90-day suspension, and if you violate that, a mandatory minimum 5 days in jail.

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      @wesdym I've seen that already.

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      • JΓΌrgen HubertJ JΓΌrgen Hubert

        @Ilka4You @swaldman @alice

        Look, while I can understand this sentiment, there are plenty of Americans who _aren't_ complete assholes and who are not in any way responsible for this mess.

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        @juergen_hubert @swaldman @alice I do know. I have lived in USA, have family & friends in USA I very much love. Yet, everyone who let this happen either by voting, or especially by NOT voting, or by ignoring, or by avoiding political talks with MAGA supporters is guilty. That would be everyone. Nothing will change if the "good ones" flee. It needs the good ones to stay and fight. Fact: we have no room in Europe to take them all in. Housingcrisis. Fleeing JUST relocates the problem to Europe.

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        • IlkaI Ilka

          @juergen_hubert @swaldman @alice I do know. I have lived in USA, have family & friends in USA I very much love. Yet, everyone who let this happen either by voting, or especially by NOT voting, or by ignoring, or by avoiding political talks with MAGA supporters is guilty. That would be everyone. Nothing will change if the "good ones" flee. It needs the good ones to stay and fight. Fact: we have no room in Europe to take them all in. Housingcrisis. Fleeing JUST relocates the problem to Europe.

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          @Ilka4You @swaldman @alice

          I hate this line of reasoning because this is the _exact_ same argument made by German right-wing politicians for why Syrian refugees should return to Syria.

          It's easy to say that others should fight for their rights if you are not part of the marginalized group that is being oppressed.

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          • JΓΌrgen HubertJ JΓΌrgen Hubert

            @Ilka4You @swaldman @alice

            I hate this line of reasoning because this is the _exact_ same argument made by German right-wing politicians for why Syrian refugees should return to Syria.

            It's easy to say that others should fight for their rights if you are not part of the marginalized group that is being oppressed.

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            @juergen_hubert IMO it is very much different. SYR's couldn't have prevented what came upon them. They couldn't have changed anything except for dying vs being alife. USAmericans are the only ones who can end the regime they brought upon themselves. If half of them flee now it is out of convenience, not need. No one ould be left to stand up & you will have an even more devastating situation for them & the world. Research the market sit. in Europe before suggesting to move here. @swaldman @alice

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            • JΓΌrgen HubertJ JΓΌrgen Hubert

              @Ilka4You @swaldman @alice

              I hate this line of reasoning because this is the _exact_ same argument made by German right-wing politicians for why Syrian refugees should return to Syria.

              It's easy to say that others should fight for their rights if you are not part of the marginalized group that is being oppressed.

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              @juergen_hubert sign limit 2/2: ~1.3 Mio SYR refugess came to Europe within 12 years, this is doable. It worked. You now POTENTIALLY have ~170 Mio USAmericans wanting to flee USA. Europe has a housing and job crisis as it is. Inviting them on students visa is short sighted & 1 single solution for 1 single person, it floods all social systems & will consequently breaking health care, social support, flood the streets with homeless ppl.
              @swaldman @alice

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              • NiniN Nini

                @alice How is this not a terror campaign? "We know who you are and where you live, today we're taking away your license to drive and we can take more tomorrow".

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                @nini @alice I mean, it is. But it's blatantly state sponsored so it's """fine""""

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                  #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                  The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                  Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                  Kansas Sends Letters To Trans People Demanding The Immediate Surrender Of Drivers Licenses

                  "The legislature did not include a grace period."

                  favicon

                  (www.erininthemorning.com)

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                  Kansas Advancing Anti-Trans Bill Allowing Bounty Hunters To Patrol Private Business Bathrooms

                  The bill, which is racing through the Kansas legislature, stands a significant chance of passing the Senate.

                  favicon

                  (www.erininthemorning.com)

                  #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                  @alice are they supposed to use the hallway????

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                  • Henrik PauliP Henrik Pauli

                    @swaldman @alice I honestly don't get why we still list the US as "safe to travel" in the travel advisories either.

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                    @phl @swaldman @alice

                    *whispers* "it's always money"

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                      #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                      The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                      Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

                      Link Preview Image
                      Kansas Sends Letters To Trans People Demanding The Immediate Surrender Of Drivers Licenses

                      "The legislature did not include a grace period."

                      favicon

                      (www.erininthemorning.com)

                      Link Preview Image
                      Kansas Advancing Anti-Trans Bill Allowing Bounty Hunters To Patrol Private Business Bathrooms

                      The bill, which is racing through the Kansas legislature, stands a significant chance of passing the Senate.

                      favicon

                      (www.erininthemorning.com)

                      #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                      @alice This is insane. First of all the 6 months thing. _At worst_ such a thing should count as driving without a license on your person, as the person impacted definitely has a valid driving permission - they just "lack" the "proper" license card on their person. Like, nothing there invalidates the driving test they've taken, it's just about the card.

                      But that they bring on the same punishment as for someone who never had passed a driving test, that's outrageously insane.

                      And yes, I understand that by the letter of the law, those two are indeed the same - if you possess no valid license card, that's the same as never having had the driving test.

                      I should add that the pre-existing law is also already very much broken, as one can be punished by 90 days of jail for having _lost_ one's license card. Seriously?

                      You know what the punishment in Germany is for this kind of stuff:

                      - Not having your license on you: 10 euros
                      - Having an expired or otherwise administratively invalid driver's license card on you: 10 euros (it's literally the same offense as having forgotten to take it with you)
                      - Driving without the privilege to drive: up to 1 year

                      The worst part is that it's basically _guaranteed_ they'll use the maximum possible punishment against people they "don't like"...

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                      • Una :v_trans: :v_bi:I Una :v_trans: :v_bi:

                        @calcius @alice @Fettlaus Good luck everyone.

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                        #127

                        The point and the graphic needs to be said more often.
                        Thanks!

                        @introvertcatto @calcius @alice @Fettlaus

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                        • Pomegranate_StewP Pomegranate_Stew

                          @gerdek

                          Democratic governor with far-right legislators in both houses. She vetoed the bill and they overrode it.

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                          @pomegranate_stew @gerdek now there's a bounty bullshit, report every republican Karen and Chet you see go to the bathroom.
                          Especially the legislators and especially the male ones.
                          Make them show someone their pecker every time they need to piss.

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                          • IlkaI Ilka

                            @juergen_hubert IMO it is very much different. SYR's couldn't have prevented what came upon them. They couldn't have changed anything except for dying vs being alife. USAmericans are the only ones who can end the regime they brought upon themselves. If half of them flee now it is out of convenience, not need. No one ould be left to stand up & you will have an even more devastating situation for them & the world. Research the market sit. in Europe before suggesting to move here. @swaldman @alice

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                            @Ilka4You @swaldman @alice

                            Please tell me exactly how, for example Black people "could have prevented what came upon them" with the Trump Administration. Or trans people.

                            Risking death while fighting an evil regime is honorable. Telling _other_ people to risk death while fighting an evil regime... is less so. I will judge Trump supporters, but I will _not_ judge others who have to make that kind of decision.

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                            • Danni StormD Danni Storm

                              @peterbrown @weirdone @alice This isn't about utility. If it were they'd be combatting their piss poor public health, education system, homelessness, poverty, etc etc. This is about targetting a group of people and saying you have the solution to 'make them go away'. I agree though, it kind of makes the ID useless.

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                              @danni_storm @peterbrown @weirdone a M or F gender marker on an ID is already pretty useless when you have a photo on it.

                              And before anyone says "but some people don't look like their photos"β€”I don't look like an "M", an "F", or an "X" (which is what mine lists) either.

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                              • IlkaI Ilka

                                @juergen_hubert sign limit 2/2: ~1.3 Mio SYR refugess came to Europe within 12 years, this is doable. It worked. You now POTENTIALLY have ~170 Mio USAmericans wanting to flee USA. Europe has a housing and job crisis as it is. Inviting them on students visa is short sighted & 1 single solution for 1 single person, it floods all social systems & will consequently breaking health care, social support, flood the streets with homeless ppl.
                                @swaldman @alice

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                                @Ilka4You @swaldman @alice

                                I think you _vastly_ overestimate the attraction of Europe for Americans. Most people will not ever move away from their home country because that's where their support networks are, even as the situation becomes worse and worse.

                                And even now, I have seen immigrants to the USA that they prefer living in progressive cities there than in comparably close-minded Europe. We are not the shining beacons of enlightenment we imagine ourselves to be.

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                                • WernerW Werner

                                  @alice

                                  My European driving licence has an entry about which vehicles I'm allowed to drive. And if I would be required to wear glasses.

                                  Nothing about my sex.

                                  Even though some people (almost always men) express their feelings of inferiority by choosing an overpowered vehicle - nobody (at least somehow sane) drives it with their genitalia.

                                  These law makers in Kansas are batshit crazy. My sympathy to all who are affected.

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                                  @wvs @alice

                                  The uk license has gender encoded into the license number. It may well be hidden in the EU one as well. They do like their data.

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                                  • JΓΌrgen HubertJ JΓΌrgen Hubert

                                    @Ilka4You @swaldman @alice

                                    I think you _vastly_ overestimate the attraction of Europe for Americans. Most people will not ever move away from their home country because that's where their support networks are, even as the situation becomes worse and worse.

                                    And even now, I have seen immigrants to the USA that they prefer living in progressive cities there than in comparably close-minded Europe. We are not the shining beacons of enlightenment we imagine ourselves to be.

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                                    @juergen_hubert fair point of view. We do not need to agree - this is what I really like on mastodon compared to other SM, you can have a civilzed convo from different angles. Thank you for the exchange of thoughts. πŸ‘ @swaldman @alice

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                                    • JΓΌrgen HubertJ JΓΌrgen Hubert

                                      @Ilka4You @swaldman @alice

                                      Please tell me exactly how, for example Black people "could have prevented what came upon them" with the Trump Administration. Or trans people.

                                      Risking death while fighting an evil regime is honorable. Telling _other_ people to risk death while fighting an evil regime... is less so. I will judge Trump supporters, but I will _not_ judge others who have to make that kind of decision.

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                                      @juergen_hubert they could have done so much. 1 very effective example: they could have voted, instead of not voting, they didn't because many said "dems or reps are all the same" and added to the problem. @swaldman @alice

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                                        #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                                        The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                                        Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                                        Kansas Sends Letters To Trans People Demanding The Immediate Surrender Of Drivers Licenses

                                        "The legislature did not include a grace period."

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                                        Kansas Advancing Anti-Trans Bill Allowing Bounty Hunters To Patrol Private Business Bathrooms

                                        The bill, which is racing through the Kansas legislature, stands a significant chance of passing the Senate.

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                                        #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                                        @alice it baffles me beyond belief that the sick f____r is still in power, let alone alive...

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                                        • IlkaI Ilka

                                          @juergen_hubert they could have done so much. 1 very effective example: they could have voted, instead of not voting, they didn't because many said "dems or reps are all the same" and added to the problem. @swaldman @alice

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                                          @Ilka4You @swaldman @alice

                                          Most of them probably did all that, but they got outvoted by white cishet people.

                                          Or their votes were suppressed. The American election system has ways of vote manipulation that are barely conceivable to most Europeans. We should not assume that the USA is in any way a functional democracy by European standards.

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