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The unadmitted reason this is happening (and the AI bubble besides): Moore's Law *has ended*.

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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    RE: https://mastodon.social/@blogdiva/116127740444038853

    The unadmitted reason this is happening (and the AI bubble besides): Moore's Law *has ended*. The only way for hardware sales to go in future is *down* because your next PC or Mac will work just fine until it breaks or dies of old age. So by ramping prices artificially via this RAM/SSD futures bullshit, they're keeping profits high for as long as possible.

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    @cstross also they’re making your PC run like an old arthritic dog by dumping more and more code on it so you use your phone instead, which is a low-cognition consumption device that encourages you to scroll past more ads and buy crap you don’t need. Not sure how MS thinks it can make money encouraging everyone to use their Apple or android phone instead of their PC, but 🤷‍♂️

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      @graydon @furicle This goes back a long way, though. I remember being appalled in 1991 when the windscreen wiper on my car packed up and discovering it needed a sealed assembly with motor, gearing, and two arms to fix it—it wasn't designed to be repairable. (I shared a house with a car kitbasher, though, so he got it working again: opened it up and replaced the stripped plastic gear.)

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      @cstross @graydon @furicle one of the brake lights on my previous car broke. What should have been a $5 bulb, instead I was quoted $700 to import the assembly from Japan, plus labour. For a brake light, likely illegal for me to drive it without paying $700 to fix it.

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      • GraydonG Graydon

        @cstross I am willing to entertain the "we're going to get rid of consumer computer hardware that isn't rented" scenario.

        In the 1970s, there was a thriving market for making, selling, and applying custom/aftermarket car parts. The entire auto industry systematically murdered it by successively moving cars into a space where you couldn't do that. It's not like we don't know a large market can't be expunged.

        The incumbents have a strong general incentive to keep people from having options.

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        @graydon @cstross just remember, communists are the ones who want to take your private property!

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        • Hugo MillsD Hugo Mills

          @cstross @blogdiva Cat pictures. It's usually cat pictures. Have you checked Menhit's home directory?

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          @darkling @cstross @blogdiva literally came here just to say "it's cat pics, isn't it?"

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@blogdiva/116127740444038853

            The unadmitted reason this is happening (and the AI bubble besides): Moore's Law *has ended*. The only way for hardware sales to go in future is *down* because your next PC or Mac will work just fine until it breaks or dies of old age. So by ramping prices artificially via this RAM/SSD futures bullshit, they're keeping profits high for as long as possible.

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            @cstross I cannot agree enough, we gotta RAID SOME DATA CENTERS

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            • UpLateGeekU UpLateGeek

              @cstross also they’re making your PC run like an old arthritic dog by dumping more and more code on it so you use your phone instead, which is a low-cognition consumption device that encourages you to scroll past more ads and buy crap you don’t need. Not sure how MS thinks it can make money encouraging everyone to use their Apple or android phone instead of their PC, but 🤷‍♂️

              Darwin WoodkaD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @UpLateGeek @cstross

              Anything shows me ads on MY phone it burns in a fire. Apps gone, etc.

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              • an actual busR an actual bus

                @mbpaz @cstross There is so much untapped wealth in all the old tech collecting dust all over the world. Commercial software steals this wealth from us by dropping support but free software unlocks it all back.

                I'm writing this on a laptop from 2010 that I've been using as my only personal computer for about two years. It's running linux and can stream video in 720p when the website isn't too bloated, 480p otherwise, and I can use it to work on my godot game.

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                @renardboy @mbpaz @cstross

                Yup, I'm posting this with a 2010 Core 2 Duo running Linux. I use it for internet, video editing, making music with Reaper, etc. I'll never stop using C2D computers for most duties.

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                • Negative12DollarBillN Negative12DollarBill

                  @cstross @blogdiva Doesn't the "earn my living" part mean you can claim it/write it off on your taxes?

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                  @negative12dollarbill @cstross @blogdiva only partially. A decade or two back you could write off the full cost of computing hardware against tax but it was so widely and comprehensively abused that the Inland Revenue put a stop to it.

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                  • KineneC Kinene

                    @pare @cstross @blogdiva My "new," computer is a ThinkPad X240, running Linux. Purchased used on eBay about 2 years ago for under $200. 8gb mem, ~400gb ssd. It is still quite adequate. And smaller than newer laptops.

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                    @c_merriweather @pare @cstross @blogdiva I’m running an 8 year old thing with 8gb ram and it’s perfect. Snappy and fast for my needs running Linux Mint. Runs better than it did brand new with Windows. I’ve sworn off buying new hardware entirely. Refurbs or hand me downs all the way. I

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                    • ✶Rayotron✶R ✶Rayotron✶

                      @renardboy @mbpaz @cstross

                      Yup, I'm posting this with a 2010 Core 2 Duo running Linux. I use it for internet, video editing, making music with Reaper, etc. I'll never stop using C2D computers for most duties.

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                      @rayotron @mbpaz @cstross Obsolescence is a cage made of twigs 😎

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@blogdiva/116127740444038853

                        The unadmitted reason this is happening (and the AI bubble besides): Moore's Law *has ended*. The only way for hardware sales to go in future is *down* because your next PC or Mac will work just fine until it breaks or dies of old age. So by ramping prices artificially via this RAM/SSD futures bullshit, they're keeping profits high for as long as possible.

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                        @cstross

                        I am reasonably sure the math does not work for this to be a deliberate attempt to get the world hooked on remote services.

                        If that is your goal, it would be cheaper to make it near-free for 5-10 years, driving OEM out of business. Instead, this juices production, R&D.

                        I do not know what *is* driving it, though. Perhaps quantum arms races? Internet redundancy/duplication? Remember PRISM? caused the same sort of bubble.

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                        • Charlie StrossC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Gnuxie Businesses figure on replacing the PCs on their staff desktops every 2 years. Long habit from the 80s/90s and an expectation that company kit will be hammered hard.

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