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Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing.

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  • AndréA André

    @BuyFromEU on top of that, i'll guess almost 99% of critical finance apps on smartphones would stop to work due to gooogle/apples integrity Service to stop certifying a secure environment as mandated by many health/finance/ID apps

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    @asltf @BuyFromEU "trusted" computing keeps being a disgrage. If app issuers don't trust my device they're free to give me a smart card or a gold old RSA token instead.

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    • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

      Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

      #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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      @BuyFromEU I am sorry but Europe is messaging but NOT listening. I find US dependancies all the time all the way into the European parliament, and EU governments and all I get is gaslighting an denial even in the face of evidence. Europe is fucked and it is the EUs lack of enforcement that is the cause and the reason we will not know what will fall apart when the US plug us out.

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      • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

        Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

        #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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        @BuyFromEU And we just realized it 😞 We failed to learn from the moment we realized Europe was dependent on Eastern countries for hardware manufacturing.

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        • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

          Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

          #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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          Eoin O'Beara
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          #11

          @BuyFromEU The alt text says Denmark the most at 89%, but the image shows Ireland at 93%.

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          • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

            Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

            #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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            @BuyFromEU The entire non-Usia world should be treating new fibre on land, and new cables by sea that route around that damage, the same way they treated the financing of WWII - because it would be an act of world self-defense.

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            • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

              Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

              #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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              Per Jakobsen
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              #13

              @BuyFromEU

              Come on Europeans - we must be able to do better without the US. (especially the Nordics need to)

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              • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

                Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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                paranoiq
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                @BuyFromEU this would have huge consequences, beginning from US companies being disobbedient, through siezing us datacenters and military bases, whole world switching to open-source and self-hosting, tech alliance of EU and China, EU federation, economic chaos not only in Europe, possibly more civil unrest in US, etc. most critical european services would recover in weeks or months, but the damage to US reputation and world economy would be emormous

                of course the switch will never be flipped

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                • paranoiqP paranoiq

                  @BuyFromEU this would have huge consequences, beginning from US companies being disobbedient, through siezing us datacenters and military bases, whole world switching to open-source and self-hosting, tech alliance of EU and China, EU federation, economic chaos not only in Europe, possibly more civil unrest in US, etc. most critical european services would recover in weeks or months, but the damage to US reputation and world economy would be emormous

                  of course the switch will never be flipped

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                  @BuyFromEU longer version of comment, that does not fit here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/s/zAPqK9DpPw

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                  • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

                    Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                    #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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                    moin :pride_rainbow: 🇺🇦
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                    @BuyFromEU
                    i would be running, but i am not a company...

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                    • ch4ptrC ch4ptr

                      @BuyFromEU This is such a sad state of affairs. In Denmark Microsoft is just the default for everything, even though it's one of the worst and most infuriating suites of software ever created... But it seems like it's been a wake up call, the two largest municipalities are actively seeking to break free, and there's hopefully more to come.

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                      @ch4ptr @BuyFromEU This has been a wake-up call for me. I would've never thought of changing OS, apps and social media had it not been for the insanity that's going on with the USA

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                      • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

                        Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                        #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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                        princessue
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                        @BuyFromEU Trump needs to go

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                        • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

                          Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                          #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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                          ch2ds
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                          @BuyFromEU the problem with Poland, Bolgaria and Romania is that they depend on russian tech, such as Telegram.

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                          • Ondřej ŽižkaO Ondřej Žižka

                            @BuyFromEU Nice. but there are not many publicly listed companies in EU, so it is highly non-representative.

                            Also, Czech republic is missing.

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                            Lukáš Jelínek
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                            @OndrejZizka @BuyFromEU Czechia is missing there, but I'm sure that it is very dependent. Almost all Czech PCs run on Windows (and the most of the rest on Mac OS), US cloud services are heavily used (Azure, AWS, Google Cloud...), card payments use MC or Visa, almost all smartphones and tablets run on Android or iOS...

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                            • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

                              Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                              #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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                              @BuyFromEU I'd like to see #Canada depicted/assessed in the same way - probably worse than #Bulgaria. #ElbowsUp

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                              • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

                                Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                                #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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                                kolya
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                                @BuyFromEU @davep
                                We haven't reached the level of prosperity we enjoy by economic autonomy but by global trade. And the US are a big player in that. Of course Europe should be able to stand on its own but I think that arguing for becoming independent from the US is about as clever as Trump's tariffs. Both would hurt the global economy immensely and everyone would lose. Not just Trump.

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                                • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

                                  Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                                  #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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                                  @BuyFromEU The only viable way is via Linux and FOSS software. Plus devices like Fairphone (phones) and Framework (computers).

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                                  • Eoin O'BearaE Eoin O'Beara

                                    @BuyFromEU The alt text says Denmark the most at 89%, but the image shows Ireland at 93%.

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                                    @BuyFromEU @eobeara Iceland 97 %

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                                    • kolyaK kolya

                                      @BuyFromEU @davep
                                      We haven't reached the level of prosperity we enjoy by economic autonomy but by global trade. And the US are a big player in that. Of course Europe should be able to stand on its own but I think that arguing for becoming independent from the US is about as clever as Trump's tariffs. Both would hurt the global economy immensely and everyone would lose. Not just Trump.

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                                      #25

                                      @kolya @BuyFromEU
                                      I think it's specifically about hyperscaler tech platforms and European dependence on them. We can't undo the realisation that we can't trust the US since Trump's aggressive second tenure. And this is a huge risk.

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                                      • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

                                        Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                                        #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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                                        Utopiah (Fabien Benetou)
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                                        #26

                                        @BuyFromEU link to the source please, seems they are relying on email usage which might not be the best proxy.

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                                        • BuyFromEUB BuyFromEU

                                          Europe is dependend on the US tech and it's a bad thing. We cannot be hold in a grip by a fanatic. We have to change it

                                          #BuyFromEU #Europe #EU

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                                          Paul Kater - Antifa
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                                          @BuyFromEU This is not worrying at all, is it?

                                          😱

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