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Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg,the former German defence minister,who is close to Peter Thiel and, incidentally, oversaw the suspension of compulsory military service(!), was invited to an Epstein gathering to discuss how to 'change the world'.

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  • Kristian KiehlingK This user is from outside of this forum
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    Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg,the former German defence minister,who is close to Peter Thiel and, incidentally, oversaw the suspension of compulsory military service(!), was invited to an Epstein gathering to discuss how to 'change the world'. It has emerged that his sister and ex-wife may have possessed Epstein-issued credit cards with a daily withdrawal limit of $1,500 ($900,000 annually). Both cards were issued under the name Stephanie zu Guttenberg. (source: @FrauHodl )

    https://epstein-emails.sfo3.digitaloceanspaces.com/docs/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_017574.pdf

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    • Kristian KiehlingK Kristian Kiehling

      Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg,the former German defence minister,who is close to Peter Thiel and, incidentally, oversaw the suspension of compulsory military service(!), was invited to an Epstein gathering to discuss how to 'change the world'. It has emerged that his sister and ex-wife may have possessed Epstein-issued credit cards with a daily withdrawal limit of $1,500 ($900,000 annually). Both cards were issued under the name Stephanie zu Guttenberg. (source: @FrauHodl )

      https://epstein-emails.sfo3.digitaloceanspaces.com/docs/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_017574.pdf

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      @Kristian_Kiehling

      Am I completely disconnected from the world? Who the fuck accepts a credit card from an acquaintance of one's husband?

      Who the fuck does this? Did they not wonder at why?

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      • Madeleine MorrisR Madeleine Morris

        @Kristian_Kiehling

        Am I completely disconnected from the world? Who the fuck accepts a credit card from an acquaintance of one's husband?

        Who the fuck does this? Did they not wonder at why?

        Kristian KiehlingK This user is from outside of this forum
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        @Remittancegirl Or rather, how can the safeguards against government corruption be so weak as to allow the spouses of defense ministers to receive credit cards belonging to foreign nationals with close ties to Russia?

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        • Madeleine MorrisR Madeleine Morris

          @Kristian_Kiehling

          Am I completely disconnected from the world? Who the fuck accepts a credit card from an acquaintance of one's husband?

          Who the fuck does this? Did they not wonder at why?

          Western ExposureW This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Kristian_Kiehling
          People who have everything and yet can't get enough and happily accept more and don't give a shit about what sinister pool it comes from or who gets harmed along the way.
          (Cue my veterinarian friend: 𝘏𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯𝘴. 𝘕𝘰𝘵 𝘮𝘺 𝘧𝘢𝘷𝘰𝘶𝘳𝘪𝘵𝘦 𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘪𝘦𝘴.)

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          • Kristian KiehlingK Kristian Kiehling

            Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg,the former German defence minister,who is close to Peter Thiel and, incidentally, oversaw the suspension of compulsory military service(!), was invited to an Epstein gathering to discuss how to 'change the world'. It has emerged that his sister and ex-wife may have possessed Epstein-issued credit cards with a daily withdrawal limit of $1,500 ($900,000 annually). Both cards were issued under the name Stephanie zu Guttenberg. (source: @FrauHodl )

            https://epstein-emails.sfo3.digitaloceanspaces.com/docs/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_017574.pdf

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            @Kristian_Kiehling
            Could You explain the part with Guttenbergs Sister, if possible please?

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            • Kristian KiehlingK Kristian Kiehling

              Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg,the former German defence minister,who is close to Peter Thiel and, incidentally, oversaw the suspension of compulsory military service(!), was invited to an Epstein gathering to discuss how to 'change the world'. It has emerged that his sister and ex-wife may have possessed Epstein-issued credit cards with a daily withdrawal limit of $1,500 ($900,000 annually). Both cards were issued under the name Stephanie zu Guttenberg. (source: @FrauHodl )

              https://epstein-emails.sfo3.digitaloceanspaces.com/docs/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_017574.pdf

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              @Kristian_Kiehling Wait, do I understand correctly that his sister is his ex-wife?

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              • Karen AlexanderB Karen Alexander

                @Kristian_Kiehling Wait, do I understand correctly that his sister is his ex-wife?

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                @Bookherd No, this was an error on account of (Tobias Lange
                @lange_tobias_hh) whom I cited. His ex-wife Stephanie zu Guttenbergs maiden name was Stephanie Anna Charlotte von Bismarck-Schönhausen before she married.

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                • Karen AlexanderB Karen Alexander

                  @Kristian_Kiehling Wait, do I understand correctly that his sister is his ex-wife?

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                  @Bookherd Thanks for asking.After double-checking, I found that the mention of a sister with the same name was indeed erroneous (based on false info by the X account @lange_tobias_hh , whom I partially cited). His ex-wife, Stephanie zu Guttenberg, was born Stephanie Anna Charlotte von Bismarck-Schönhausen. Therefore, those Epstein credit cards are solely associated with the former German Minister of Defence's ex-wife.

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                  • Kristian KiehlingK Kristian Kiehling

                    Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg,the former German defence minister,who is close to Peter Thiel and, incidentally, oversaw the suspension of compulsory military service(!), was invited to an Epstein gathering to discuss how to 'change the world'. It has emerged that his sister and ex-wife may have possessed Epstein-issued credit cards with a daily withdrawal limit of $1,500 ($900,000 annually). Both cards were issued under the name Stephanie zu Guttenberg. (source: @FrauHodl )

                    https://epstein-emails.sfo3.digitaloceanspaces.com/docs/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_017574.pdf

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                    Kristian KiehlingK This user is from outside of this forum
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                    ⚠️Correction: apparently, zu Guttenberg does not have a half-sister named Stephanie, meaning the credit cards issued by Jeffrey Epstein can only be connected to the former German defence minister's ex-wife, whose maiden name is Stephanie Anna Charlotte von Bismarck-Schönhausen.

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