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Is your Mastodon timeline too empty or too full?

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  • Janne MorenJ Janne Moren

    @Arthfach @FediTips
    Sorted in chronological order is absolutely an algorithm.

    Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
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    Fedi.Tips
    wrote last edited by
    #44

    @jannem @arthfach

    It is by the dictionary definition, it isn't by common usage. What the dictionary says on technical matters often diverges from common usage.

    Maybe the clearest example is "computer": Most people use that word to mean a laptop or desktop PC/Mac and not a smartphone. But going by the dictionary definition of "computer", the smartphone ought to be called a computer too.

    I'm trying to use common usage as I'm mainly aiming my guides at new and non-technical people.

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    • CoolerPseudonymC CoolerPseudonym

      @FediTips Perhaps a positive reinforcement will outweigh the negative one you just got

      Thank you for what you do.

      Fedi.TipsF This user is from outside of this forum
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      Fedi.Tips
      wrote last edited by
      #45

      @CoolerPseudonym

      Oh wow! 😲

      Thank you so much! You didn't have to but it is very greatly appreciated! 🙏

      That's very kind and generous of you, it helps a lot with keeping the accounts and sites going!

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      • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

        p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

        Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

        If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

        Michael / Chgowiz 🎲🎲C This user is from outside of this forum
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        Michael / Chgowiz 🎲🎲
        wrote last edited by
        #46

        @FediTips Hang in there. I think you do a great job of helping out, thank you for doing it!

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        • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

          Is your Mastodon timeline too empty or too full? Are you seeing stuff you don't want to, and missing stuff you do want to see? Is your timeline overwhelmed by someone who shares too many posts?

          These and lots more timeline problems are solved in the "How to customise your Mastodon timeline" guide:

          ➡️ https://fedi.tips/does-mastodon-and-the-fediverse-use-algorithms-does-it-start-pushing-stuff-at-me-based-on-my-interactions

          #FediTips #Mastodon

          Move forward or die!L This user is from outside of this forum
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          Move forward or die!
          wrote last edited by
          #47

          @FediTips your work is very much appreciated. Sorry you are being harassed. I frankly think that Mastodon is potentially one of the key means to avoid social media armageddon.

          Avoiding Algorithmic Addiction is the key to regaining sanity…

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          • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

            p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

            Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

            If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

            fotoFiJ This user is from outside of this forum
            fotoFiJ This user is from outside of this forum
            fotoFi
            wrote last edited by
            #48

            @FediTips You do fabulous work. I salute you!

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            • RonaldB Ronald

              @FediTips @gotofritz

              I agree with Fritz... You are not even willing to consider you could do better.

              So be it. I have better things to do than trying to convince someone he is writing like an AI.

              Cheers.

              Adrian Riskin 🇵🇸🍉A This user is from outside of this forum
              Adrian Riskin 🇵🇸🍉A This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #49

              @BlameDutchie @FediTips @gotofritz

              Oh ffs, even the OED recognizes fedi's use of the word "algorithm". Bad enough to criticize someone's word choices when you obviously know what they mean, but to do it when they're actually using the word in a widely recognized sense is just 🤡

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              • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                Michel PatriceM This user is from outside of this forum
                Michel PatriceM This user is from outside of this forum
                Michel Patrice
                wrote last edited by
                #50

                @FediTips

                When I say #NoAlgorithmsNoMasters, I share your definition of algorithm and I appreciate your work.

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                • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                  p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                  Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                  If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                  Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈F This user is from outside of this forum
                  Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈F This user is from outside of this forum
                  Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈
                  wrote last edited by
                  #51

                  @FediTips You do great work, don't worry about the queefs.

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                  • OwlorO Owlor

                    @FediTips Accusing someone of causing harm for using the non-technical definition of algorithm is kind of darkly funny in a way.

                    Like it's clear that they understand that words can have expanded and non-literal definitions, but seemingly only for words they want to use to make a fiddly argument about terminology sounds more dire.

                    Tbh, between the word "algorithm" and the word "harm", it is probably more important to insist on an accurate definition of the word "harm".

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                    #52

                    @Owlor @FediTips they strike me probably as the type of wordbro that will go standing on the hill about a meaning of a slur word before it became a slur and get pissy at folks said slur targets asking for them not to use said slur word because think of the poor dictionary definition.. despite um hold up they're clearly erasing the part of the definition that says how it's used as a slur. It's just a word in that case, but then get so pissed off at when a word is used in a way they don't like lol

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                    • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                      p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                      Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                      If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                      Operation: Puppet (he/him)O This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Operation: Puppet (he/him)
                      wrote last edited by
                      #53

                      @FediTips Ugh, sorry you’re dealing with that. If I could give one gift to the FOSS & Fediverse world it would be “better communication and social skills”. Seems to be a consistent weak point 😁

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                      • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                        p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                        Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                        If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                        Jens BannmannT This user is from outside of this forum
                        Jens BannmannT This user is from outside of this forum
                        Jens Bannmann
                        wrote last edited by
                        #54

                        @FediTips
                        As others already said: keep up the great work! Ignore the nitpickers and haters.

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                        • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                          p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                          Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                          If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                          StoneBear :potion_genderqueer:S This user is from outside of this forum
                          StoneBear :potion_genderqueer:S This user is from outside of this forum
                          StoneBear :potion_genderqueer:
                          wrote last edited by
                          #55

                          @FediTips Hell to the yes.

                          There are three criteria to making any kind of a public statement apocryphally credited to Socrates, but no less relevant for not having actually said by the man himself:

                          1. Is it true? Did you check it? are your sources reliable, hopefully more than one?

                          2. Is it useful? In this case, does it correct an error of fact? or is it simply denigrating the messenger? Which leads directly to

                          3. Is it kind? Even if it's about bad men, does what you're saying help good people? Or does it make them reconsider their oft-thankless efforts ot make the world better? Does it bring hope, or bitterness?

                          I invite you to consider these things for yourselves. You don't _have to_, at all... but people with way more reach than me will see what you do, and we will remember.

                          Credit to Tim Griffin of GriffinEd (WINOMastodon... yet?) for reminding me of that...

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                          • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                            @jannem @arthfach

                            It is by the dictionary definition, it isn't by common usage. What the dictionary says on technical matters often diverges from common usage.

                            Maybe the clearest example is "computer": Most people use that word to mean a laptop or desktop PC/Mac and not a smartphone. But going by the dictionary definition of "computer", the smartphone ought to be called a computer too.

                            I'm trying to use common usage as I'm mainly aiming my guides at new and non-technical people.

                            David ZaslavskyD This user is from outside of this forum
                            David ZaslavskyD This user is from outside of this forum
                            David Zaslavsky
                            wrote last edited by
                            #56

                            @FediTips @jannem @Arthfach Yeah... I think anyone who takes communication seriously, as you do, has to understand that in some cases it makes sense to be pedantic about what words mean, and in other cases it makes sense to sacrifice precision for ease of understanding. What you're doing is definitely in the latter category.

                            A fair number of people (some of whom really should know better IMO) don't seem to have ever considered that distinction.

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                            • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                              p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                              Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                              If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                              AccordionBruceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              AccordionBruce
                              wrote last edited by
                              #57

                              @FediTips
                              Thank you for teaching us something about algorithms and pedants today!

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                              • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                                p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                                Don Hawkins - W7DAHD This user is from outside of this forum
                                Don Hawkins - W7DAHD This user is from outside of this forum
                                Don Hawkins - W7DAH
                                wrote last edited by
                                #58

                                @FediTips
                                Sounds like they need to rolltheirown

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                                • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                                  p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                  Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                  If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                                  Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶  #FBPET This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶  #FBPET This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #59

                                  @FediTips Well, "There is no algorithm on Mastodon" *is* wrong.

                                  To a techie an "algorithm" is "a procedure which terminates".

                                  In this case we're presumably talking about the algorithm which decides which posts a user sees. Which *does* exist, because the user sees post! - and is described in various places (starting with "you see posts from people you follow" and getting more complicated than that).

                                  Fedi.TipsF Solarbird :flag_cascadia:M 🇨🇦🇩🇪🇨🇳张殿李🇨🇳🇩🇪🇨🇦Z 3 Replies Last reply
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                                  • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                                    p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                    Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                    If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                                    OssiO This user is from outside of this forum
                                    OssiO This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Ossi
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #60

                                    @FediTips You're doing a great job, thanks for all the help you do for us!

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                                    • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                                      p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                      Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                      If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                                      NigelN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Nigel
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #61

                                      @FediTips
                                      💕

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                                      • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                                        Is your Mastodon timeline too empty or too full? Are you seeing stuff you don't want to, and missing stuff you do want to see? Is your timeline overwhelmed by someone who shares too many posts?

                                        These and lots more timeline problems are solved in the "How to customise your Mastodon timeline" guide:

                                        ➡️ https://fedi.tips/does-mastodon-and-the-fediverse-use-algorithms-does-it-start-pushing-stuff-at-me-based-on-my-interactions

                                        #FediTips #Mastodon

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                                        Elisabeth M
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #62

                                        @FediTips you are an important part of the fediverse! You are dare I say core to its success. Much appreciation for all you do

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                                        • Fedi.TipsF Fedi.Tips

                                          p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                          Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                          If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

                                          Cal CloudwatcherC This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Cal CloudwatcherC This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Cal Cloudwatcher
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #63

                                          @FediTips
                                          WTF?
                                          Block 'em.

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