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The U.S. boycott remains strong. Why many Canadians are digging in their heels  | CBC News

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  • BeBopaLulaB BeBopaLula

    Is this “us tech” in the room with us now?

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    derisionconsulting@lemmy.ca
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    Yes.

    There is likely a device running US software in the room you are in.

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    • D derisionconsulting@lemmy.ca

      Yes.

      There is likely a device running US software in the room you are in.

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      BeBopaLula
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      It was a psychiatric question. Zoooom.

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      • MushuChupacabraM MushuChupacabra

        Brudda, it’s a geniune question. The article talks about physical products.

        It wasn’t only tactical whataboutism, it was literal verbatim whataboutism.

        That is the very specific method to get me to dismiss you.

        I’m wondering how it going on other fronts i.e the non-physical.

        No, you’re not. You’re attempting to undermine the central message of the story.

        A real answer would be appreciated instead “I’m on high alert and will interpret any answer I see as malevolence”.

        Something that you could have looked up. But oh no, you had to deliver a whataboutism turd of a comment.

        You’re fooling absolutely no one.

        Brudda.

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        assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works
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        What? There’s absolutely no way we can interpret intent in this case - this could genuinely be a fair question asked in good faith.

        “What about US tech?” could be interpreted a number of ways, from “are Canadians also divesting from US tech?” to “But Canadians aren’t divesting from US tech, what about that?”. There’s no reason to believe this person is going after the latter case here when “ok that’s retail, how’s tech doing?” is equally likely and imminently reasonable.

        I’m fine to get dog piled here but I think you’ve assumed bad faith where there is no reason to make that assumption, especially after the user attempted to disambiguate in exactly the way I’ve described.


        I’m also curious to see how Canadian usage of American tech companies has changed. I wonder if it got more people to quit Twitter finally.

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        • TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)T TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)

          Interesting that they would be confused at all. I have an interest, because Canada is cool, but I won’t be visiting anytime soon because I know we are the worst and nobody is going to want us there. I also don’t want to deal with assholes at the border, even though I’m a US citizen they have carte blanche to do anything they are in the mood for.

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          gonzo-rand19
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          Honestly, we’re generally fine with individual Americans that are respectful. Not many of us, if any at all, will be rude towards you unless you’re an openly hateful Trump supporter.

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            melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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            Why? Because it got personal. Trump can verbally shit his policies all over the place but once he started talking about annexing (invading) Canada then the citizenry took notice. This is not a boycott hand in hand with the government of Canada. This is a boycott by the people at a grassroots level and it needed no organizing whatsoever.

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            • MushuChupacabraM MushuChupacabra

              Brudda, it’s a geniune question. The article talks about physical products.

              It wasn’t only tactical whataboutism, it was literal verbatim whataboutism.

              That is the very specific method to get me to dismiss you.

              I’m wondering how it going on other fronts i.e the non-physical.

              No, you’re not. You’re attempting to undermine the central message of the story.

              A real answer would be appreciated instead “I’m on high alert and will interpret any answer I see as malevolence”.

              Something that you could have looked up. But oh no, you had to deliver a whataboutism turd of a comment.

              You’re fooling absolutely no one.

              Brudda.

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              atro_city
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              🙄

              You’re like the caveman who thought they saw eyes in the bushes only for there to be a clearing behind it.

              Stay on high-alert all the time. I’m sure it will do you good.

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              • ikidd@lemmy.worldI ikidd@lemmy.world

                I divested from US tech decades before it was cool.

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                atro_city
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                Pepperidge farm remembers! (Is there a famous canadian farm one could use in this meme?)

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                • A atro_city

                  🙄

                  You’re like the caveman who thought they saw eyes in the bushes only for there to be a clearing behind it.

                  Stay on high-alert all the time. I’m sure it will do you good.

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                  MushuChupacabra
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                  #32

                  You’re like the caveman who thought they saw eyes in the bushes only for there to be a clearing behind it.Stay on high-alert all the time. I’m sure it will do you good.

                  Translation:

                  You’re not engaging with my whataboutism on my terms. Whaaaaaaaaaaa!!

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                  • G gonzo-rand19

                    Honestly, we’re generally fine with individual Americans that are respectful. Not many of us, if any at all, will be rude towards you unless you’re an openly hateful Trump supporter.

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                    systemglitch@lemmy.world
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                    #33

                    I’m finding all Americans distasteful these days. They have a taint these days.

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                      StarshotJohn
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                      I totally understand the boycott and cheer you guys on, but do ya’ll not watch/play any American media?

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                      • A atro_city

                        Pepperidge farm remembers! (Is there a famous canadian farm one could use in this meme?)

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                        stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca
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                        Uhh… Probably don’t want to use that one.

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                        • StarshotJohnS StarshotJohn

                          I totally understand the boycott and cheer you guys on, but do ya’ll not watch/play any American media?

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                          Victor Villas
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                          #36

                          Sometimes, though I have been prioritizing CBC originals lately I’m still finishing Handmaids Tale

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                          • StarshotJohnS StarshotJohn

                            I totally understand the boycott and cheer you guys on, but do ya’ll not watch/play any American media?

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                            mongostein@lemmy.ca
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                            #37

                            Yup, and I set up a Jellyfin server.

                            I started it before all the Trump stuff and was using it for stuff that couldn’t be found on streaming services, but since Trump decided to threaten Canada those are all cancelled and it’s a full-on pirate’s life for me.

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                            • StarshotJohnS StarshotJohn

                              I totally understand the boycott and cheer you guys on, but do ya’ll not watch/play any American media?

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                              canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                              Only sort of facetiously, it’s all filmed up here anyway.

                              Yes, the tech and media giants are harder to avoid. Ali Express has left a lot to be desired as an Amazon replacement, although I haven’t quite given up. For streaming, CBC Gem is publicly funded. The boycott is mainly targeted at physical products.

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                              • StarshotJohnS StarshotJohn

                                I totally understand the boycott and cheer you guys on, but do ya’ll not watch/play any American media?

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                                reannlegge@lemmy.ca
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                                I steal my US media, I have ad blockers blocking ads.

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                                • StarshotJohnS StarshotJohn

                                  I totally understand the boycott and cheer you guys on, but do ya’ll not watch/play any American media?

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                                  puppinstuff@lemmy.ca
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                                  The annexation threats really turned my sea-sailing habit into a spiteful obsession.

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                                  • C canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org

                                    Only sort of facetiously, it’s all filmed up here anyway.

                                    Yes, the tech and media giants are harder to avoid. Ali Express has left a lot to be desired as an Amazon replacement, although I haven’t quite given up. For streaming, CBC Gem is publicly funded. The boycott is mainly targeted at physical products.

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                                    reannlegge@lemmy.ca
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                                    Speak for yourself and being mainly physically targeted, I came to Lemmy to get off of Reddit, I miss the local community as many people do not have the interest in figuring out Lemmy. I have cancelled all of my streaming services from the US, if there is something I want to see that is strickly on a streaming service I put on my pirates hat and sail the high C’s, other wise I watch it on the Canadian Channels app (with my pihole on so that I do not see ads so that it becomes less valuable for the Canadian channel to continue paying for it) I subscribed to CBC Gem+ or whatever it is called and watch Canadian content on there. I us Unwatched to watch YouTube so that I am not paying Google, I feel for the non US videos I watch but they are still getting money from Google but Google is not getting it from me.

                                    One of the first buy Canadian things I did was move my blog hosting from a US provider to hosthero.ca and changed it from .com to .ca then I looked at my iCloud stuff and started finding other options. Sure they are not all together anymore and do not easily communicate together it is however far less expensive than what I was doing before. I was using Apple’s hide my email feature I had 60 some email address (I think). After going through all those addresses and finding out what was dead or not I moved something like 45 addresses to my hosthero email server, and I started moving more things that did not already have their separate email address to my address. I would later find out that my ISP changed to an exchange server, I have no idea if they have to pay Microsoft for that or what but I have been transitioning all of the emails I get from there to there own email address. This is not a short process and I am up to 120 some email addresses, all of the pseudo-random email addresses are forwarded to 1 of 5 email accounts that I check. I can have unlimited free trials for things if I so choose (have not done that with this yet, I had done this a couple of times for things in my iCloud days). I do not trust myself with hosting my own password manager so bitwarden is not really an option for me so I went with 1password, for my cloud storage I just downloaded everything to one of my pi’s but I was having all kinds of difficulties with hosting my own VPN and NextCloud crashed on me a couple of times so I decided to go with sync.com. If there was any real competition for youtube I would not be sneaking in via other apps I would be using the real alternative platform.

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                                    • StarshotJohnS StarshotJohn

                                      I totally understand the boycott and cheer you guys on, but do ya’ll not watch/play any American media?

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                                      walktheplank@lemmy.world
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                                      Only for free. Pirating that shit for over two decades now. Fuck em.

                                      Everything else is a no go. Even food. If it’s not from somewhere other than murica we don’t need it. Period.

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                                      • T StinkyFingerItchyBum

                                        My boycott is for life. Trust is earned slowly, and broken instantly.

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                                        walktheplank@lemmy.world
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                                        Yup. I’m 50 and teaching my 10 year olds all about boycotting murica products and services. They’re into it. It will be generational. Good luck getting us back.

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                                          reannlegge@lemmy.ca
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                                          #44

                                          I have stopped paying for US services, my future computers will either be from outside of the US, or used with a clean install of some flavour of Linux. It will be difficult to transition myself away from Apple when the time comes to update my phone or tablet but it will happen eventually, there are plenty of non US phone and tablet makers who do not use iOS or Android. Once Trump burns down the US even more competition will come around.

                                          After reading some more of your replies, I have personally dropped almost all of my US online stuff. Apple still has some to backup my iPhone and iPad but I am trying to get away from that to, it just involves me figuring out what is up with my old Mac and getting sync setup on there and backing up my iPhone and iPad onto sync via my Mac.

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