Hint: it’s not the tariffs, we are used to that from the [redacted] from our southern border, it’s the threats against our sovereignty

Not just the threats, but the deafening silence from Americans in general about it (outside Lemmy) is something we will not forget for a generation.

My boycott is for life. Trust is earned slowly, and broken instantly.

What about US tech?

What about whataboutism?

Seriously. I have too many American friends who are confused when I tell them I have and will have no interest in going down to America, even if it’s just to visit them, for the foreseeable future and they wonder why.

Could it be because your country was having open public discourse on the merits of annexing us? Or maybe that I don’t want to get thrown into an ICE concentration camp for no reason?

Brudda, it’s a geniune question. The article talks about physical products. I’m wondering how it going on other fronts i.e the non-physical. A real answer would be appreciated instead “I’m on high alert and will interpret any answer I see as malevolence”.

What US tech? You mean the tech they buy from south-east Asia and slap their logos on?

Is this “us tech” in the room with us now?

Interesting that they would be confused at all. I have an interest, because Canada is cool, but I won’t be visiting anytime soon because I know we are the worst and nobody is going to want us there. I also don’t want to deal with assholes at the border, even though I’m a US citizen they have carte blanche to do anything they are in the mood for.

In related news: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/investing/personal-finance/retirement/article-canadian-investors-us-stocks-sun-life/

Canadian investors divested from U.S. equity funds in the first quarter at the highest rate since the start of the pandemic, moving their money into more conservative investments, according to a new report from Sun Life SLF-T.
 But people aren’t cashing out. Overall withdrawal rates remained stable, suggesting that investors are staying committed to their long-term savings.

What about it?

I certainly don’t judge Americans who come here unless they’re acting MAGAish (wearing the hat, American flag clothes, etc).

While it’s true there’s a lot of that, AWS just dominates the cloud, and many of our own tech companies here in Canada use AWS, Azure, and Google Cloud, not because they’re cheap, but because they have good uptime guarantees, security guarantees, easily allow you to deploy worldwide and provide fast access to customers almost everywhere (especially major markets like the EU and Asia), and provides companies access to a large talent pool who know how to use these systems. You’d be hard-pressed, as a business owner and/or CTO, to use other options and handle all those downsides yourself, slowing down your ability to do business. The only other potential non-US alternative here is probably Alibaba, but they’re not even close to being considered competition internationally.

Aside from Apple, the big tech companies down south are big and hard to displace not because of what most people know them for, but because of this large arm of software infrastructure that basically serves as the literal backbone of the consumer-side of the Internet.

And for those who think that we can just build that infrastructure ourselves, take note that these companies have been doing this for at least a decade, and spent billions and probably trillions doing this in the US and abroad. AWS itself claims that between 2011 and 2022, it invested $108.9 billion in USD, just within the US alone, and they have data centres in many parts of the world. Not discouraging anyone, but you have to think about where that kind of money has to come from.

Good! Stay safe. Stay far away.

Brudda, it’s a geniune question. The article talks about physical products.

It wasn’t only tactical whataboutism, it was literal verbatim whataboutism.

That is the very specific method to get me to dismiss you.

I’m wondering how it going on other fronts i.e the non-physical.

No, you’re not. You’re attempting to undermine the central message of the story.

A real answer would be appreciated instead “I’m on high alert and will interpret any answer I see as malevolence”.

Something that you could have looked up. But oh no, you had to deliver a whataboutism turd of a comment.

You’re fooling absolutely no one.

Brudda.

Is lemmy.ca redacting naughty words now?

I divested from US tech decades before it was cool.

My inlaws are dual and living in the US. Very surprised and confused why I was still upset about it.

What gets me is that no one seems to be mentioning exactly what it means that US is entering their ‘Papers please’ phase, and that supporting a fascist state isn’t a very Canadian thing to do.

Not wanting to be hassled at the border, or having our sovereignty threatened is an understandable reason for avoiding the US, but it’s also pretty selfish.

I wish I see more people, and Canadian news media talking about the bigger side of it as in ‘We don’t support fascism’

That should be an integral part of our identity, especially if we want to ensure the Conservatives stop trying to normalise maple maga ideals.