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‘It’s too late’: David Suzuki says the fight against climate change is lost - iPolitics

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  • S snowclone@lemmy.world

    1950’s oil execs funded studies that show how they will kill the planet if they don’t stop, transition to something else, hell they had enough fore warning they could have R&D’d solar and monopolize the tech, but NO! They needed to make faster money faster and stopping yourself from killing the human race isn’t THAT important, and they knew they’d be dead by now.

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    asg101@lemmy.ca
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    They might have been able to monopolize SOME of the tech, but they knew they could never own access to the sun. But yeah, they knew that they were incinerating us for decades. Which makes it premeditated murder in my books.

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    • A asg101@lemmy.ca

      How to say Marx was right without saying “Marx was right”.

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      vivalapivo@lemmy.today
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      Just hope that the next intelligent species will speedrun capitalism

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      • A asg101@lemmy.ca

        How to say Marx was right without saying “Marx was right”.

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        hertzdentalbar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        #123

        Can’t kill earth can only just piss her off, hopefully I’ll be useful enough to the overlords of Cascadia Dome #6 to get a really nice condo overlooking a nice park.

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        • K korhaka@sopuli.xyz

          Has been for ages. It’s now question of how bad, and we are still making it worse.

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          lemonaz
          wrote on last edited by gabbath@lemmy.world
          #124

          And we’re gonna increasingly train more AI, mine more crypto, open more coal mines, industrially kill more animals, fight more wars.

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          • J jargonwagon@lemmy.world

            The best way to reduce all the excess manufacturing for livestock is by not buying it their products. If it’s all about ROI for them, give them a reason to reduce their manufacturing with your purchasing power.

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            commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            The best way to reduce all the excess manufacturing for livestock is by not buying it their products.

            has that ever worked?

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            • V vivalapivo@lemmy.today

              Just hope that the next intelligent species will speedrun capitalism

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              BurgerBaron
              wrote on last edited by burgerbaron@piefed.social
              #126

              With the Sun it’s hard to really believe there’s enough time left in the habitable zone Earth era left.

              *for that to happen again.

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              • BurgerBaronB BurgerBaron

                With the Sun it’s hard to really believe there’s enough time left in the habitable zone Earth era left.

                *for that to happen again.

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                vivalapivo@lemmy.today
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                Nah, for it’s left how much? 4-5 billion years, mass extinctions happen like every 100 million years and after each one there’s nonzero probability of intelligent life occurring.

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                • J jaykrown@lemmy.world

                  I suggest actually doing something about it then. Direct your frustration towards something productive. Take the risk because if we don’t then no one will.

                  Here’s why your comment is horseshit:

                  The cost of solar photovoltaic (PV) technology dropped by 81% since 2009, and wind and battery costs have also plummeted. By 2017, most new power-generating capacity added worldwide came from renewables, not fossil fuels.

                  A comprehensive review of 1,500 climate policy measures across 41 countries found 63 cases of successful policies, each leading to an average emission reduction of 19%. The most effective policies combined tax and price incentives with regulations and subsidies.

                  Although global greenhouse gas emissions reached record highs in the 2010s, the rate of growth has slowed, in part due to climate policies and the adoption of cleaner technologies.

                  The Montreal Protocol (1987) successfully phased out ozone-depleting substances, demonstrating that coordinated global action can work. This agreement also had climate benefits, as many of the banned substances were potent greenhouse gases.

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                  Phoenixz
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                  And here is why your comment is horseshit:

                  Yeah, the ozone issue was handled marvelously but the much bigger CO2 issue has been treated like… Well, just plain not. The Paris climate accords were a joke and still just about all countries wiped their ass with it.

                  Solar being so super cheap now is awesome! Just that, you know, the US is working hard to kill anything that is not coal and oil, and most countries have been increasing CO2 emissions, not decreasing them. We multiple times passed points of “holy shit this is a no return” and do you remember everyone aiming for an insane 1.5 degree increase? Pepperidge farm remembers… We just keep pushing the acceptable temperature increase up because economy baby!

                  So yeah, politicians world wide don’t give a shit, we went multiple times over the line and still no one with power gives a shit. This “then you do something” is also a bullshit argument because here I am, literally right now separating paper and plastic but i know the plastic goes straight into some dump anyway because again, politicians don’t give a shit, and rich assholes keep flying big jets for fun…

                  It’s exhausting, and yeah, we’re fucked as a species

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                    And here is why your comment is horseshit:

                    Yeah, the ozone issue was handled marvelously but the much bigger CO2 issue has been treated like… Well, just plain not. The Paris climate accords were a joke and still just about all countries wiped their ass with it.

                    Solar being so super cheap now is awesome! Just that, you know, the US is working hard to kill anything that is not coal and oil, and most countries have been increasing CO2 emissions, not decreasing them. We multiple times passed points of “holy shit this is a no return” and do you remember everyone aiming for an insane 1.5 degree increase? Pepperidge farm remembers… We just keep pushing the acceptable temperature increase up because economy baby!

                    So yeah, politicians world wide don’t give a shit, we went multiple times over the line and still no one with power gives a shit. This “then you do something” is also a bullshit argument because here I am, literally right now separating paper and plastic but i know the plastic goes straight into some dump anyway because again, politicians don’t give a shit, and rich assholes keep flying big jets for fun…

                    It’s exhausting, and yeah, we’re fucked as a species

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                    jaykrown@lemmy.world
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                    This is as far as I read “And here is why your comment is horseshit:”

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                    • J jaykrown@lemmy.world

                      This is as far as I read “And here is why your comment is horseshit:”

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                      Phoenixz
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                      That is seriously funny as I picked exactly THAT line from your response

                      Apparently you find yourself so insulting that even you yourself wouldn’t dignify your own responses with a read…

                      Bravo.

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