We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running.
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@briankrebs Good!
My boss doesn't understand why I refuse to travel to the US. I guess this will finally change his mind.
@inguin @briankrebs A number of the companies I have worked for over the last 10 years would have a hissy fit about me passing on my email details!
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@briankrebs Whose going to remember all of that anyways? Seems like an excellent way to pick out people they want to harass and claim its because they lied. Presumably they already have this data thanks to big tech
"Whose going to remember all of that anyways?"
And who is going to check/verify any of this, and how?
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as someone who has been using unique email addresses for every service, I look forward to submitting several hundred addresses.
@ojensen @briankrebs Do you even remember them all? I certainly don't.
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I feel for anyone in the travel, tourism and hospitality industries, which make up ~ 10M jobs and ~ 3 percent of the nation's GDP. From the U.S. International Trade Administration (trade.gov)
"Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nation’s economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding. Travel and tourism is the largest single services export for the United States, accounting for 22 percent of the country’s services exports and 7 percent of all exports in 2023. The travel and tourism industry contributed $2.3 trillion to the U.S. economy in 2022 (2.97 percent of the country’s GDP), supporting 9.5 million jobs."
@briankrebs don't they have like a World Cup and Olympics coming up soon? Who's gonna wanna go through all that?
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@farbel @briankrebs is CPB a typo for CBP, or the actual address is CPB_PRA ? CPB dhs gov goes nowhere.
@faraiwe @briankrebs From the linked DHS document:
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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
-‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
-‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
-biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.
The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media
Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).
Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)
The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs
It's almost as if all that hero-worshipping of North Korea in Trump's first term of office led him to decide to close the US border and only allow the US citizens he's deporting out and Nigel Farage in. -
We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
-‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
-‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
-biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.
The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media
Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).
Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)
The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs So given you have to go through US immigration/customs even if just transiting through the US, this is also going to impact US Airlines, as who wants to turn over all that data even if just spending a few hours air side on the way to some where else?
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@briankrebs I would be unable to comply, even if I wanted to (and hell, I don't want to).
I regularly use unique Email addresses and not all of them are documented. I guess that 5 years means 500+ email addresses.
HaveIBennPwned quite often informs me, how wise that move is
. Do they allow wildcards in email addresses?There are several more "no go" points in that text. And if a relative would hand out any information about me, I would consider that a breach of trust. So I won't do that either.
I think any person wanting to visit the U.S. at the current state must be completely nuts.
@masek @briankrebs Who even knows all of the profiles, phone numbers, emails etc their relatives use? Like you, I wouldn't even be able to provide my own even if I wanted to.
This seems like it's only meant to stifle free speech/ intimidate and to create probable cause if you want to go after someone. Because nobody will be able to fully comply
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I'm British, white, male, aged 60-ish.
Prior to February 2016 I typically visited the USA 3 times a year for up to six weeks.
Since February 2016 I have visited the USA twice in a decade, for a total of 10 days.
Entering the USA as a foreigner, with a Republican POTUS in the White House, *never* felt safe, but under Trump it looks diabolically dangerous. (And to a glance I resemble "one of them": I'm not female or dark-skinned.)
@cstross @briankrebs Living here is not a walk in the park at this point...
I'd never ask anybody to travel here now. I'm glad I'm no longer in the events-organizing part of tech -- I couldn't host anything anywhere in the U.S. if it required people to come from outside.
Not our largest problem right now, but it's a fairly nasty symptom.
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@briankrebs I wish people understood how important the Federal Register is to how law is made. The government has to consider comments and if they fail to consider them seriously you can sue to block a regulation. The more people who comment with serious objections to a rule, the harder it is for the government to implement that rule. It’s an under appreciated avenue for direct democracy and direct action. If there’s an issue you care about, you can follow that on the FR
@ShiitakeToast new rule: "Anyone submitting an objection to the federal register must first provide 5 years social media, all email addr...."
The only way to win is not to play.
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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
-‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
-‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
-biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.
The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media
Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).
Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)
The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs Not visiting any time soon, but FUCK NO!
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@briankrebs If this happens, the EU should impose similar restrictions on U.S. citizen travelers.
@arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs No, just to people with private jets or diplomatic passports.
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@briankrebs Why would anyone want to travel to the US. Use a burner phone
@CaptMorgan How in the world would using a burner phone help with any of this?
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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:
"Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."
"If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."
PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:
-All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’
-ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
-‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
-‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
-biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
-business telephone numbers used in the last five years
-business email addresses used in the last ten years.
The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media
Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).
Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)
The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf
@briankrebs Data privacy aside, how would I know that this info wouldn't just find its way out onto the dark web for sale? I already gave up everything including my arsehole print to these fucks so that's one party who shouldn't have it already but that shouldn't mean I want it distributed more widely. Feels deeply unworkable for essentially having every bit of info that a fraudster could destroy my life with.
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I'm British, white, male, aged 60-ish.
Prior to February 2016 I typically visited the USA 3 times a year for up to six weeks.
Since February 2016 I have visited the USA twice in a decade, for a total of 10 days.
Entering the USA as a foreigner, with a Republican POTUS in the White House, *never* felt safe, but under Trump it looks diabolically dangerous. (And to a glance I resemble "one of them": I'm not female or dark-skinned.)
@cstross@wandering.shop @briankrebs@infosec.exchange ​it doesn't just look dangerous, it looks actually impossible (legally) for many of us if that goes through. I don't have access to all of the information they're asking for even if I did want to give it to them (which I don't).
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@briankrebs going to assume this will also be imposed on US citizens returning home from overseas travel.
@sternecker @briankrebs Not likely initially, but you can get it will go there eventually if tolerated.
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@briankrebs
Seems like a good time — unfortunately — for those outside the US to #boycott major sporting events like the #WorldCup, #LAOlympics, etc. There is no way to guarantee the safety of travelers from abroad — just as there is no way to guarantee the safety of US citizens — until these fascists, goons, grifters and thugs are out of office. Sad.@RunRichRun @briankrebs Pro sports are such a racket, anyway.... Imagine if 1 tenth of those dollars went to charity or ... mutual aid in ICE targets....
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@briankrebs FIFA's Word Cup tournaments in the U.S. need to be boycotted or cancelled. This puts the world at the mercy of these thugs.
@AAKL @briankrebs This could put TFGs FIFA peace prize in jeopardy
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@arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs that would definitely suck for us citizens, but our government would not care. Punch them, not us
@independentpen @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs Exactly. Just because the government of one country turns fascist does not mean that we, as Europeans, should abandon our core values, such as those enshrined in the European Charter of Fundamental Rights.
If our European values are to be more than a paper exercise, we must be prepared to uphold them.
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@cstross @briankrebs Living here is not a walk in the park at this point...
I'd never ask anybody to travel here now. I'm glad I'm no longer in the events-organizing part of tech -- I couldn't host anything anywhere in the U.S. if it required people to come from outside.
Not our largest problem right now, but it's a fairly nasty symptom.
@jzb @cstross @briankrebs Agreed. No one should visit the States now. It's not safe here.
