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  • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

    @koen_hufkens depends on what they’re doing for verification

    Koen Hufkens, PhDK This user is from outside of this forum
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    Koen Hufkens, PhD
    wrote last edited by
    #10

    @Ashedryden We will see soon enough.

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    • Koen Hufkens, PhDK Koen Hufkens, PhD

      @Ashedryden We will see soon enough.

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      Koen Hufkens, PhDK This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #11

      @Ashedryden Someone should make a biometric randomization app already, which takes your likeness and then change the core face metrics randomly.

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      • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

        Two things:
        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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        #12

        @Ashedryden dammit.

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        • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

          Two things:
          1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

          2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

          John MaxwellJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
          #13

          @Ashedryden Also, we're giving the kids a reason to investigate decentralized services.

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          • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

            Two things:
            1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

            2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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            wrote last edited by
            #14

            @Ashedryden it's not like they had an age verification information breach announced uh, three months ago or anything </sarcasm>

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            • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

              RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

              Two things:
              1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

              2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

              Flash Mob Of OneF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #15

              @Ashedryden I don't know that I agree.

              Your information is already in all of these systems, especially if you're walking around with a tracking device in your pocket via your phone. The ID verification is just a legal formality only an adult can fulfill.

              Secondly, given the excessive damage so much of the corporate Internet is doing to our species' collective cognitive ability, I think regulation is becoming essential, as we are incapable of self-regulating even in the knowledge of the harm.

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              • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                Two things:
                1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
                #16

                @Ashedryden I wish people could of ALWAYS seen this coming.

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                • NetravenN Netraven

                  @Ashedryden I wish people could of ALWAYS seen this coming.

                  Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈F This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈
                  wrote last edited by
                  #17

                  @Netraven @Ashedryden some of us saw this happening 20 years ago but everyone called us dorks and conspiracy theorists.

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                  • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                    Two things:
                    1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                    2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                    midnight postingT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #18

                    @Ashedryden It'll be unsustainable too. The tier that requires ID will see a precipitous drop in access and traffic, by design.

                    I would speculate that whoever's pushing these rules knows that the majority of people won't give up their IDs to these random services, either through apathy ("I don't have time for this") or because it's a bad idea. Only massive platforms like Youtube will get people to jump through those hoops for access.

                    Painting everything the same shade of beige is the point.

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                    • Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈F Alpha Male Martha Stewart 🍉🌈

                      @Netraven @Ashedryden some of us saw this happening 20 years ago but everyone called us dorks and conspiracy theorists.

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #19

                      @fiend_unpleasant @Ashedryden

                      It's almost high time to take back IRC. All the epstein-owned 4channers and lowlife trolls are almost all dead or moved on to psych wards or careers in politics.

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                      • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                        Two things:
                        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                        #20

                        @Ashedryden This is already the case of being excluded from the web. If you "choose" to hang around only on non-bigtech sites, then you are already excluded. If you have some principles then you are already excluded.

                        This is just another straw on the camels back.

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                        • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                          Two things:
                          1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                          2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                          decapitaeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #21

                          @Ashedryden Goodbye discord.

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                          • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                            Two things:
                            1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                            2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                            #22

                            @Ashedryden teamspeak is great for voice, but someone NEEDS to make a better alternative for chatting. i haven't found a platform that works nearly as well as discord, and it sucks.

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                            • Flash Mob Of OneF Flash Mob Of One

                              @Ashedryden I don't know that I agree.

                              Your information is already in all of these systems, especially if you're walking around with a tracking device in your pocket via your phone. The ID verification is just a legal formality only an adult can fulfill.

                              Secondly, given the excessive damage so much of the corporate Internet is doing to our species' collective cognitive ability, I think regulation is becoming essential, as we are incapable of self-regulating even in the knowledge of the harm.

                              Hypolite PetovanH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #23

                              @FlashMobOfOne @Ashedryden This is a fatalist outlook. ICE’s current efforts to obtain advertisers’ data for their witch hunt shows that the scope of the data you give to each individual platform is extremely relevant.

                              Secondly, if regulation is necessary, it should be towards corporations’ actions, not users exposing additional data to a growing list of platforms with poor security track history.

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                              • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                Two things:
                                1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                                retechR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #24

                                @Ashedryden What protections do we have as users? None. I'll willingly go into the dark over this. Eventually I'll have to use pigeons and smoke signals to communicate with the world.

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                                • Phantasus 🏳️‍🌈P Phantasus 🏳️‍🌈

                                  @Ashedryden This is already the case of being excluded from the web. If you "choose" to hang around only on non-bigtech sites, then you are already excluded. If you have some principles then you are already excluded.

                                  This is just another straw on the camels back.

                                  Nina Felwitch :v_trans:N This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #25

                                  @phantasus @Ashedryden
                                  I chose to delete my facebook accounts. WhatsApp, Instagram, gone. When a friend planned their birthday party, they had a WhatsApp group where they discussed who would bring what and what everyone would wear.

                                  Of course I was not in that group. I didn't know there was a desscode. I didn't know everyone would bring salad and stuff like that.
                                  I was already excluded, because I have principles.

                                  Friends buy the most recent Ubisoft game, or EA game, or Bethesda game, or Nintendo game, or some other game released by a shady company. I can't. I'm excluded from their talks about their new favorite game, because I have principles.

                                  Friends send me Tiktok links, or Instagram links, or Facebook links. I can't access them because I don't have accounts there. I'm excluded.

                                  The majority of people will freely give up their ID to companies with bad cyber security.
                                  I won't. And I'll be excluded again.

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                                  • Ashe DrydenA Ashe Dryden

                                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                    Two things:
                                    1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                    2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                                    #26

                                    @Ashedryden i don't use all those maintream crap anyway, so won't miss it XD

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                                    • midnight postingT midnight posting

                                      @Ashedryden It'll be unsustainable too. The tier that requires ID will see a precipitous drop in access and traffic, by design.

                                      I would speculate that whoever's pushing these rules knows that the majority of people won't give up their IDs to these random services, either through apathy ("I don't have time for this") or because it's a bad idea. Only massive platforms like Youtube will get people to jump through those hoops for access.

                                      Painting everything the same shade of beige is the point.

                                      Derick RethansD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #27

                                      @trashwizard @Ashedryden https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8jmzd972leo ← and for some people who did give up their face, it got nicely leaked 😠

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                                      • Al SweigartA Al Sweigart

                                        @Ashedryden I live in New York and decided to go without my phone. I was a few feet from my front door when I realized I couldn't get the bike share bike without the app. I signed up to get the keycard. After it arrived, I found it doesn't work on any bike stations.

                                        I thought about how to navigate the world without a phone number. The only people who do that are either very wealthy, or homeless.

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                                        #28

                                        @AlSweigart @Ashedryden In #uk, the homeless get free phones from charities Crisis / St Mungos. Migrants seeking asylum get the same but from the Home Office.

                                        In both cases, this isn't so much for their benefit, as much as it is for forced participation in online services and surveillance. The homeless cant leave homelessness without the internet.

                                        Being homeless isn't an excuse not to have a phone and to be forced to participate in the #digitalid hellscape that's being created for everyone.

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                                        • Nina Felwitch :v_trans:N Nina Felwitch :v_trans:

                                          @phantasus @Ashedryden
                                          I chose to delete my facebook accounts. WhatsApp, Instagram, gone. When a friend planned their birthday party, they had a WhatsApp group where they discussed who would bring what and what everyone would wear.

                                          Of course I was not in that group. I didn't know there was a desscode. I didn't know everyone would bring salad and stuff like that.
                                          I was already excluded, because I have principles.

                                          Friends buy the most recent Ubisoft game, or EA game, or Bethesda game, or Nintendo game, or some other game released by a shady company. I can't. I'm excluded from their talks about their new favorite game, because I have principles.

                                          Friends send me Tiktok links, or Instagram links, or Facebook links. I can't access them because I don't have accounts there. I'm excluded.

                                          The majority of people will freely give up their ID to companies with bad cyber security.
                                          I won't. And I'll be excluded again.

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #29

                                          @ninafelwitch @Ashedryden Yeah, that's also the reason why I'm on WhatsApp, only because of family connections or to read some updates from meetup groups.

                                          But I'm not really present there. And at some point you would be lonely sitting in your flat, without any connection with people anymore.

                                          I still suffer from that, while I'm not as 100% "pure" or stringent when it comes to my denial of such corporations. At some point you break, at some point you long for connection, if you are basically lonely in your offline life.

                                          If it would be different, then I would be less pressured to even use these services at all. Do I trust Signal, Discord, Reddit, Telegram? No, not at all.

                                          First real life connections become more and more impossible as you get older, then only connections in those walled gardens can be found and it's painful.

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