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So Chinese hospital ships are now in the Carribean, helping Jamaica.♥️🕊️

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  • mekka okereke :verified:M This user is from outside of this forum
    mekka okereke :verified:M This user is from outside of this forum
    mekka okereke :verified:
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    So Chinese hospital ships are now in the Carribean, helping Jamaica.♥️🕊️

    It's fascinating that we're all getting front row seats to see if threats and violence (US approach), or compliments and assistance (Chinese approach) will be more effective by 2030 at securing resources from developing nations.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A7I7j-q-Rhs

    Prior to the 21st century, the most effective way for an empire to build wealth, was unquestionably "Kill the Black and brown people, and steal their stuff."

    The empires growing weath the fastest, were the most belligerent. Dutch. British. American.

    But in the 21st century, that's less effective.🤷🏿‍♂️

    In the 21st century the superpower growing wealth the fastest, is by far the least belligerent, least imperial, least colonizing.

    (I didn't say zero violent or zero colonizing. I said least. If you've never taken even one African history course or lived on the continent, don't try to speak on this)

    Shout out to everyone that will misread this as being pro-China. This has nothing to do with China. Americans, this has 100% to do with us.

    You can't change another nation's approach. You can only change your own.

    We can't stop their hospital ship from docking. But we can send ours.

    Compete.

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    • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

      So Chinese hospital ships are now in the Carribean, helping Jamaica.♥️🕊️

      It's fascinating that we're all getting front row seats to see if threats and violence (US approach), or compliments and assistance (Chinese approach) will be more effective by 2030 at securing resources from developing nations.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A7I7j-q-Rhs

      Prior to the 21st century, the most effective way for an empire to build wealth, was unquestionably "Kill the Black and brown people, and steal their stuff."

      The empires growing weath the fastest, were the most belligerent. Dutch. British. American.

      But in the 21st century, that's less effective.🤷🏿‍♂️

      In the 21st century the superpower growing wealth the fastest, is by far the least belligerent, least imperial, least colonizing.

      (I didn't say zero violent or zero colonizing. I said least. If you've never taken even one African history course or lived on the continent, don't try to speak on this)

      Shout out to everyone that will misread this as being pro-China. This has nothing to do with China. Americans, this has 100% to do with us.

      You can't change another nation's approach. You can only change your own.

      We can't stop their hospital ship from docking. But we can send ours.

      Compete.

      mekka okereke :verified:M This user is from outside of this forum
      mekka okereke :verified:M This user is from outside of this forum
      mekka okereke :verified:
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      #2

      China has fighter planes. The US has fighter planes. China has rice. The US has rice.

      You don't need a PhD in economics from Harvard or Stanford to understand that:

      Rice... is cheaper than fighter planes.

      All the rice on this ship only costs ~$170 million. This one plane is ~$350 million.

      I can get you to give me your stuff by showing you my rice, or by showing you my fighter planes.

      Which is more effective in the long run?

      As a hint, I'd like to remind you that fried rice, Biryani, and Jollof are all made of rice!😋

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      • mekka okereke :verified:M mekka okereke :verified:

        China has fighter planes. The US has fighter planes. China has rice. The US has rice.

        You don't need a PhD in economics from Harvard or Stanford to understand that:

        Rice... is cheaper than fighter planes.

        All the rice on this ship only costs ~$170 million. This one plane is ~$350 million.

        I can get you to give me your stuff by showing you my rice, or by showing you my fighter planes.

        Which is more effective in the long run?

        As a hint, I'd like to remind you that fried rice, Biryani, and Jollof are all made of rice!😋

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        AJ SadauskasA This user is from outside of this forum
        AJ SadauskasA This user is from outside of this forum
        AJ Sadauskas
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        @mekkaokereke I've mentioned this before, but China's playing a long game to be the world's dominant superpower by 2049.

        As in, they've openly said that's what they want to do: https://www.dw.com/en/xi-jinping-china-model-putin-united-states-trump/a-73866651

        Right now, China's building its alliances across Latin America, Africa, South Asia, Central Asia, and the Middle East with that goal.

        It's building parallel institutions like SCO ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation ) and the Asian Infrastructure Development Bank ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Infrastructure_Investment_Bank ).

        Its pitch to formerly colonised country is that it's the superpower of the global south, counterbalancing the imperialist Western powers.

        Join China, and China will help make your country rich like China.

        And with Belt & Road, it's building freight infrastructure that will make it easier for countries to trade with China than the US.

        While China is methodically and patiently building its global influence over the next decades, America is doing the opposite.

        Short-term thinking. Walking away from institutions like NATO. Tariff taxes. Doubling down on white supremacy.

        I'm sure Americans will wake up one morning in 2049 and wonder how China came to be the world's dominant superpower.

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        • AJ SadauskasA AJ Sadauskas

          @mekkaokereke I've mentioned this before, but China's playing a long game to be the world's dominant superpower by 2049.

          As in, they've openly said that's what they want to do: https://www.dw.com/en/xi-jinping-china-model-putin-united-states-trump/a-73866651

          Right now, China's building its alliances across Latin America, Africa, South Asia, Central Asia, and the Middle East with that goal.

          It's building parallel institutions like SCO ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation ) and the Asian Infrastructure Development Bank ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Infrastructure_Investment_Bank ).

          Its pitch to formerly colonised country is that it's the superpower of the global south, counterbalancing the imperialist Western powers.

          Join China, and China will help make your country rich like China.

          And with Belt & Road, it's building freight infrastructure that will make it easier for countries to trade with China than the US.

          While China is methodically and patiently building its global influence over the next decades, America is doing the opposite.

          Short-term thinking. Walking away from institutions like NATO. Tariff taxes. Doubling down on white supremacy.

          I'm sure Americans will wake up one morning in 2049 and wonder how China came to be the world's dominant superpower.

          tuban_muzuruT This user is from outside of this forum
          tuban_muzuruT This user is from outside of this forum
          tuban_muzuru
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          @aj @mekkaokereke

          PRC is making almost every error made by the Shōwa era Japanese. PRC's neighbors all hate them.

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          • tuban_muzuruT tuban_muzuru

            @aj @mekkaokereke

            PRC is making almost every error made by the Shōwa era Japanese. PRC's neighbors all hate them.

            BilliglarperB This user is from outside of this forum
            BilliglarperB This user is from outside of this forum
            Billiglarper
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            @tuban_muzuru @aj @mekkaokereke

            Agreed. While China seems quite good at strategic influence building, and Trump is trashing US influence like no other, the real world is still complicated.

            Like the Chinese Fishing Militia and the PRC threats to Taiwan antagonizing most of its neighbours.

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            Maritime Militia - Wikipedia

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            Map shows new alliances growing on China's doorstep

            Countries across Asia are quietly stitching together defense ties in a web of cooperation around China.

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            Newsweek (www.newsweek.com)

            A lot of the reporting is also on trends, not absolute numbers. Like Chinese investments in Africa are still far behind EU and US.

            Just a moment...

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            • BilliglarperB Billiglarper

              @tuban_muzuru @aj @mekkaokereke

              Agreed. While China seems quite good at strategic influence building, and Trump is trashing US influence like no other, the real world is still complicated.

              Like the Chinese Fishing Militia and the PRC threats to Taiwan antagonizing most of its neighbours.

              Link Preview Image
              Maritime Militia - Wikipedia

              favicon

              (en.wikipedia.org)

              Link Preview Image
              Map shows new alliances growing on China's doorstep

              Countries across Asia are quietly stitching together defense ties in a web of cooperation around China.

              favicon

              Newsweek (www.newsweek.com)

              A lot of the reporting is also on trends, not absolute numbers. Like Chinese investments in Africa are still far behind EU and US.

              Just a moment...

              favicon

              (odi.org)

              tuban_muzuruT This user is from outside of this forum
              tuban_muzuruT This user is from outside of this forum
              tuban_muzuru
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              @billiglarper @aj @mekkaokereke

              They should all quit overfishing those waters - it's all quite disgraceful, they all look like so many looters. Soon there won't be any, eh?

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              • tuban_muzuruT tuban_muzuru

                @billiglarper @aj @mekkaokereke

                They should all quit overfishing those waters - it's all quite disgraceful, they all look like so many looters. Soon there won't be any, eh?

                AJ SadauskasA This user is from outside of this forum
                AJ SadauskasA This user is from outside of this forum
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                @tuban_muzuru @billiglarper @mekkaokereke Here's a piece of history many people in the West aren't particularly familiar with, but most people in China know deeply.

                The Pearl River Delta flows into the South China Sea.

                Around the Pearl River Delta is a cluster of critical Chinese trading ports. Guangzhou, Hong Kong, Dongguan, Shenzhen, and Macau.

                Chances are most of the people reading this are doing so on a phone built in the Pearl River Delta region.

                A key battle during the First Opium War was a British attack on the Pearl River Delta:

                "The Second Battle of Chuenpi[a] (Chinese: 第二次穿鼻之戰) was fought between British and Chinese forces in the Pearl River Delta, Guangdong province, China, on 7 January 1841 during the First Opium War. The British launched an amphibious attack at the Humen strait (Bogue), capturing the forts on the islands of Chuenpi and Taikoktow. Subsequent negotiations between British Plenipotentiary Charles Elliot and Chinese Imperial Commissioner Qishan resulted in the Convention of Chuenpi on 20 January. As one of the terms of the agreement, Elliot announced the cession of Hong Kong Island to the British Empire, after which the British took formal possession of the island on 26 January."

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Chuenpi

                That battle led to China ceding Hong Kong to the British, beginning the "Century of Humiliation". (That's the century before Mao seized control of China.)

                China wants to avoid the Pearl River Delta cities being attacked by a hostile naval power, and the Pearl River being blockaded, and the South Chins Sea being blockaded.

                That's by the British again, or the Americans, or any other hostile foreign power.

                Thus the critical importance to China in controlling the South China Sea.

                Truth be told, were there a mononuclear armed conflict between the US and China, the US would almost certainly at least attempt to blockade the Pearl River Delta or the South China Sea, if it were in a position to do so.

                And I don't think you can understand China's determination to control the South China Sea without understanding the Opium Wars.

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                • AJ SadauskasA AJ Sadauskas

                  @mekkaokereke I've mentioned this before, but China's playing a long game to be the world's dominant superpower by 2049.

                  As in, they've openly said that's what they want to do: https://www.dw.com/en/xi-jinping-china-model-putin-united-states-trump/a-73866651

                  Right now, China's building its alliances across Latin America, Africa, South Asia, Central Asia, and the Middle East with that goal.

                  It's building parallel institutions like SCO ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation ) and the Asian Infrastructure Development Bank ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Infrastructure_Investment_Bank ).

                  Its pitch to formerly colonised country is that it's the superpower of the global south, counterbalancing the imperialist Western powers.

                  Join China, and China will help make your country rich like China.

                  And with Belt & Road, it's building freight infrastructure that will make it easier for countries to trade with China than the US.

                  While China is methodically and patiently building its global influence over the next decades, America is doing the opposite.

                  Short-term thinking. Walking away from institutions like NATO. Tariff taxes. Doubling down on white supremacy.

                  I'm sure Americans will wake up one morning in 2049 and wonder how China came to be the world's dominant superpower.

                  Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  Jürgen HubertJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  Jürgen Hubert
                  wrote on last edited by juergen_hubert@mementomori.social
                  #8

                  @aj @mekkaokereke

                  Hasn't China for all intents and purposes already surpassed the USA as a superpower?

                  I mean, sure, Western Europe is still heavily dependent on the USA for much of their IT and military infrastructure, and that gives them a lot of clout.

                  But for most nations, the question on their leaders' minds is:

                  "How can I reduce our dependency on the USA?"

                  That does not scream "superpower" status to me.

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