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"#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

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  • MozM Moz

    @benroyce @idahobucks Anning is widely hated, yes. But also voted in.

    Assuming that if people who don't vote did they would all vote against fascists isn't a safe assumption. Hungary elected Orban and his government more than once, for example.

    Anning is from a nice white English-speaking country so a lot of USA voters find it easier to understand. Plus Australia has compulsory voting and a wider "universal" franchise than the US does.

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    @moz @idahobucks

    Currently we have trump specifically because not enough showed up

    The general idea that fascists can still win elections doesn't mean anything

    On the average, fascists have an easier time of it when less people vote

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    • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

      @moz @idahobucks

      Currently we have trump specifically because not enough showed up

      The general idea that fascists can still win elections doesn't mean anything

      On the average, fascists have an easier time of it when less people vote

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      #27

      @benroyce @idahobucks A lot of my caution comes from the US habit of letting governments pick their voters.

      The strategy of yelling abuse at non-voters might get a useful outcome, I don't know your local situation well enough to know. But in general yelling abuse is a poor tactic.

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      • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

        @moz @idahobucks

        Currently we have trump specifically because not enough showed up

        The general idea that fascists can still win elections doesn't mean anything

        On the average, fascists have an easier time of it when less people vote

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        wrote last edited by
        #28

        @benroyce @moz I have voted in every election I could since I was old enough to vote and have driven people to the polls that need transportation.

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        • Idaho buckeyeI Idaho buckeye

          @benroyce @moz I have voted in every election I could since I was old enough to vote and have driven people to the polls that need transportation.

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          @idahobucks @moz

          then BLESS YOU

          you are my hero

          so why the fuck would you ever downplay voting in premature capitulation, which only helps MAGA

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          • MozM Moz

            @benroyce @idahobucks A lot of my caution comes from the US habit of letting governments pick their voters.

            The strategy of yelling abuse at non-voters might get a useful outcome, I don't know your local situation well enough to know. But in general yelling abuse is a poor tactic.

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            @moz @idahobucks

            If we're at a place where people won't vote because someone was mean on social media, we're already doomed. Such immature people unable to advocate for their own needs and wants and are that emotionally addled, if they represent a large enough part of society, it speaks of such disgusting laziness and entitlement then just say good bye to it all now

            And you certainly won't get such inept losers to vote by coddling their feelings

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            • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

              "#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

              🀞 🀞 🀞

              If Hungary goes sane in April, and then if enough of the lazy entitled lumps in the #USA show up to #vote in November (after showing up in the #primaries to get real left candidates: BE THERE), then we can put a real dent on our emergent #fascism

              Fuck your #cynicism

              VOTE

              Let's do this, "degenerate Westoids" 🀭

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              @benroyce May 2026 be the year when they all fall like dominos... Spring: Orban -> Summer: Putin -> Autumn: Trump -> Winter: Netanyahu

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              • Idaho buckeyeI Idaho buckeye

                @benroyce you are missing the big picture. There is no real push back at all right now. We the people seem to think the Dems will save us which is not the case. We are in the five alarm stage now and people keep talking about voting and laws. The president doesn't worry about laws as he does what he wants like making himself billions of dollars. I have no idea what to do and don't see any real push back. Minnesota pushed back for a while and it's over even though ICE is in the suburbs right now.

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                I'm not sure who you're listening to, but people I know are talking about how to evade the police and guerrilla warfare and such. The Dems are talking about voting and laws, but they're in on the scheme. Everyone else is discussing survival of economic collapse and police states. The reason there's no pushback is not because we won't, it's because we can't. We've been systematically hamstringed as a society for so long....

                CC: @benroyce@mastodon.social
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                • FranΓ§ois the Prague FellaF FranΓ§ois the Prague Fella

                  @benroyce May 2026 be the year when they all fall like dominos... Spring: Orban -> Summer: Putin -> Autumn: Trump -> Winter: Netanyahu

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                  @FrancoisPrague the world could really use some of that.

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                  • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

                    "#Hungary's opposition #Tisza party widens its lead ahead of #Orban's #Fidesz"

                    🀞 🀞 🀞

                    If Hungary goes sane in April, and then if enough of the lazy entitled lumps in the #USA show up to #vote in November (after showing up in the #primaries to get real left candidates: BE THERE), then we can put a real dent on our emergent #fascism

                    Fuck your #cynicism

                    VOTE

                    Let's do this, "degenerate Westoids" 🀭

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                    @benroyce I presume Uncle Volodea will make sure he falls from a balcony in the meantime not to disturb his mate Viktor

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                    • Joachim Heistinger 🌢️C Joachim Heistinger 🌢️

                      @benroyce I live close to the .hu border and I know some Hungarians.
                      They are as stupid as Austrians, Muricans or Russians.

                      Mark my words when it comes to elections.

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                      @carbon_compound @benroyce there's really no need to paint just some nations with a broad brush. Stupidity is an ubiquitous human trait.

                      There's reasons why people in Eastern Germany, Hungary and Slovakia voted for hard right parties. But i feel like it is currently very visible demonstrated that hard right parties lead down a path that fails even harder on these reasons...

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                      • hot tran*sexual menaceM hot tran*sexual menace

                        @carbon_compound @benroyce there's really no need to paint just some nations with a broad brush. Stupidity is an ubiquitous human trait.

                        There's reasons why people in Eastern Germany, Hungary and Slovakia voted for hard right parties. But i feel like it is currently very visible demonstrated that hard right parties lead down a path that fails even harder on these reasons...

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                        #36

                        @carbon_compound @benroyce (hard agree on the Austrians thou hahaha)

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                        • Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦B Ben Royce πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

                          @moz @idahobucks

                          If we're at a place where people won't vote because someone was mean on social media, we're already doomed. Such immature people unable to advocate for their own needs and wants and are that emotionally addled, if they represent a large enough part of society, it speaks of such disgusting laziness and entitlement then just say good bye to it all now

                          And you certainly won't get such inept losers to vote by coddling their feelings

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                          @benroyce @moz @idahobucks

                          I find the idea of "iterating to better" somewhat naive. Even with perfectly proportional electoral system elected individuals tend to reflect the worldview and education level of the general population.

                          Turnaround at the recent elections was merely the last straw. Underlying economic and social issues combined with uselessness of the Dem leadership played a much bigger role.

                          Even if Harris would win the problem would return in 4 years.

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