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We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community.

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  • pounceP pounce
    @Gargron don't forget us IRC folks have been working to reach feature parity with discord the whole time that people have been moving away from it

    it's a pretty good alternative these days!
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    ahoyboyhoy
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    @pounce @Gargron better to plug xmpp I'd say, open internet standard with a much healthier ecosystem. No shade to IRC, many great communities there that I engage with via bridge.

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    • TargrusT Targrus

      @Gargron .. I had not seen Zulip before. Thank you for putting it on my radar. 👀

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      ahoyboyhoy
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      @targrus @Gargron I'm standing up a Zulip right now, so I'm happy to see others choose it as well.

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      • weed stallmanI weed stallman

        @pounce @Gargron What are some of the features IRC is implementing these days that would be appealing to Discord users?

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        weed stallman Eugen Rochko https://ircv3.net/ has some good information, but to name a few i don’t think many people know about:

        • persistent history (now integrated into several ircds and most clients)
        • seamless image/file upload from the app
        • multi-line and -paragraph messages
        • utf-8
        • typing indicators
        • proper replies
        • emoji reactions
        • in-app registration
        • account profile pictures / descriptions / display names
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        • Eugen RochkoG Eugen Rochko

          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

          We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

          Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Gargron I'm surprised that you hadn't yet gone full libre in regards to your infrastructure. This also means you should reconsider moving out of Github for releases in the near future.
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          • Eugen RochkoG Eugen Rochko

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

            We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

            KerfuffleK This user is from outside of this forum
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            Kerfuffle
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            #38

            @Gargron Selfhosted or in the (US) Zulip cloud?

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            • Λευτέρης Τ.L Λευτέρης Τ.

              @Gargron why not matrix?

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              @lefteristrip23 Far from 1:1 feature parity. No integrated voice or video in most implementations (leveraging Jitsi or something similar in many cases) is a big knock against Matrix.

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              • Григорий КлюшниковG Григорий Клюшников

                I don't understand why all centralized services suddenly insist on actually verifying their users' age for real. What was wrong with asking for a birth date or even just presenting a "yes I'm 18 or older" button? NSFW websites somehow still do just fine with that, but Discord, which is much less "risky" in comparison, somehow needs real verification?

                Gosh I miss the old internet.

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                #40

                @grishka "for the children" /s

                It's because they want to know who you are, and they want to be able to attribute you to other services where this identity is known to build out their web of surveillance.

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                • Autiluminade Plushy :v_enby:A This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @lutindiscret @Gargron I wish Matrix worked at all

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                  • Eugen RochkoG Eugen Rochko

                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                    We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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                    Ilka
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                    #42

                    @Gargron I guess I won't be able to call Felon 47 a brown bag full of manure anymore then.

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                    • DustyD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #43

                      @lutindiscret @Gargron @lefteristrip23 I beg of you: not #Matrix, for anything persisting and serious *when it comes to group chat*. Has a history of exploding chat rooms, every few years or so. Track record is not good.

                      #Zulip is today's much more sane choice, as a place to escape to, fleeing #Discord. 👍

                      BTW: I'm willing to set up/maintain Zulip servers, *but for a price*.

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                      • Eugen RochkoG Eugen Rochko

                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                        We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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                        Thomas Traynor
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                        @Gargron I have an account, but haven't used it in a while. When I get told to do that I will respond with a full middle finger scan and a suggestion where they can stick it.

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                        • Eugen RochkoG Eugen Rochko

                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                          We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

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                          AT Hayes
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                          #45

                          @Gargron Will it affect anything other than NSFW tagging?

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                          • Autiluminade Plushy :v_enby:A Autiluminade Plushy :v_enby:

                            @lutindiscret @Gargron I wish Matrix worked at all

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                            Dusty
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                            #46

                            @autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron with #Matrix, one-one-one chat is decent; it's just the group chats which have a poor track record of reliability over the years.

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                            • AT HayesA AT Hayes

                              @Gargron Will it affect anything other than NSFW tagging?

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                              @athayes@mas.to @Gargron@mastodon.social It shouldn't but it does give them access to scan and look through more posts especially media, we've had it in the UK for a while now and we've had data leaks and lots of problems with this system, highly suggest finding a new place.

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                              • DustyD Dusty

                                @autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron with #Matrix, one-one-one chat is decent; it's just the group chats which have a poor track record of reliability over the years.

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                                @d1 @lutindiscret @Gargron My one on one usually get's messages lost.

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                                • Autiluminade Plushy :v_enby:A Autiluminade Plushy :v_enby:

                                  @d1 @lutindiscret @Gargron My one on one usually get's messages lost.

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                                  Dusty
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                                  @autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron oh really? Didn't know... thanks

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                                  • KerfuffleK Kerfuffle

                                    @Gargron Selfhosted or in the (US) Zulip cloud?

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                                    Carlos Solís
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                                    @kerfuffle @Gargron Good question - and if the latter, how easy is it to export everything to a sovereign solution down the line?
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                                    • Григорий КлюшниковG Григорий Клюшников

                                      I don't understand why all centralized services suddenly insist on actually verifying their users' age for real. What was wrong with asking for a birth date or even just presenting a "yes I'm 18 or older" button? NSFW websites somehow still do just fine with that, but Discord, which is much less "risky" in comparison, somehow needs real verification?

                                      Gosh I miss the old internet.

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                                      @grishka @Gargron

                                      It's going to kill them with the gaming community. Absolutely kill them.

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                                      • Rachel RawlingsL Rachel Rawlings

                                        @Gargron I quit a writing group on Discord years ago when I noticed it was broadcasting every time I opened a game in steam, and wondered what other things it was spying on.

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                                        @linuxandyarn @Gargron I also caught Discord spying on a laptop of mine - while in sleep mode, in the middle of the night, Discord kept a laptop awake, churning hard. I heard the laptop fan whirring in the middle of the night, when it should have been silent. I determined it was #Discord, and uninstalled that motherfucker immediately. This was several years ago.

                                        #infosec

                                        Discord, fuck you

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                                        • Eugen RochkoG Eugen Rochko

                                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                          We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

                                          joene extraJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @Gargron Finally!

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