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#Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state.

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  • Henrik PauliP Henrik Pauli

    @swaldman @alice Last time I said this in a chat I got a similar answer — it makes sense, and yet it doesn't. Especially in the shadow of all the anti-EU/Europe rants we've heard and the active threat against Greenland.

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    Most countries do not accept refugees from their political allies, it's true. However, there is a kind of work-around in place in many places—please excuse my brain dump but this is something that more people need to know about. To have refugee status approved, you usually need to have your claim addressed in a court of some sort, depending on where you're claiming asylum. When a refugee resettlement agency knows that a claimant didn't come from one of their jurisdiction's designated "refugee generating" countries, but that situation is likely to change, they may schedule the court date for several ~years~ in the future. Of course, this can also happen because the system is overwhelmed and there's a backlog. Either way, it's not necessarily a bad thing to have a very distant court date.

    In many of the more civilized nations, once you've got a asylum claim court date scheduled, you enter a special protected class where you get access to state programs such as public schools and healthcare and are allowed to work legally, find housing etc, at least up to that court date.

    This can create bureaucratic headaches. But it can also supply a few years of necessary safety during periods when the originating country's political situation is most... dynamic. By the time the court date actually rolls around, the politics may have clarified themselves.

    @phl @swaldman @alice

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    • 🇨🇦️ badhairdayW 🇨🇦️ badhairday

      @alice It would be interesting to see if trans people would sue Kansas for not letting them be people, or some such thing. It would be nice to have SCOTUS reverse the decision, and then fine the hell out of the Kansas government.

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      @weirdone @alice I never fully trusted the federal government to protect trans rights, but I sure as hell don't right now

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      • retrimentalR retrimental

        @alice

        Oh, a trans tax.

        Years ago I'd laugh at this as a somewhat conservative guy but I try to be better.

        If I see a lifestyle choice I don't agree with, I always ask myself if I'm willing to disown my future kid for the same choice. If I'm not willing to disown and cut ties, then I think it's fair that the choice be left alone.

        Imagine implementing a Christian tax, or straight tax, or <insert totally normal thing> tax.

        You get the point.

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        @retrimental this isn't a tax. This is *invalidating* our driver's licenses, and making it illegal for us to drive to work, or anywhere else, until we go get incorrect ones.

        Imagine getting a letter in the mail, at your home address, from the government, saying "We know you think you're a Christian, but your state licenses are now invalid until you come in to an official facility and get one that says you're a Muslim. If you continue to pretend to be Christian, then the punishment is $1000 and up to 6 months in jail for each offense."

        Now imagine having to bus or get a ride to the facility, because you know there are likely to be cops waiting there to ticket you if you drove in.

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        • 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴  (🌈🦄)A 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴 (🌈🦄)

          #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

          The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

          Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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          #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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          @alice Okay, babes, we're invading Kansas and we're saving our trans family. ❤️ (But seriously, fuck these fucking fucks.)

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          • Alexander Goeres 𒀯J Alexander Goeres 𒀯
            @🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴  (🌈🦄) what is the offcial connection between being trans and being able to drive a car??
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            @jabgoe2089 a lot of conservative men seem to drive with their dicks, so they assume other folx do too?

            Actually, that would explain why they don't want women to drive either 🤔

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            • Tina HT Tina H

              @alice So: you drive to turn in your license *before* it is invalid. But now you can't drive *home* ....

              Guess they can be arrested for loitering, then. Land of brave and home of the whatsits?

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              @tina @alice

              Exactly, I remember the DMV routinely asking that applicants for drivers or motorbicycle licenses did not drive there

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              • 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴  (🌈🦄)A 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴 (🌈🦄)

                #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                @alice

                That is an utterly repugnant, completely nonsensical set of policies to enact.👀🤮

                There is no way to interpret these laws as anything other than targeted judicial oppression of a minority group.

                I cannot understand how so many communities have blinded themselves to the suffering they are causing, whose path they are following, & where it all invariable leads.💔

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                • 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴  (🌈🦄)A 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴 (🌈🦄)

                  #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                  The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                  Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                  #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                  @alice Glad my son moved to Canada.

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                  • D Darryl Hebbes

                    @alice wait a minute, let me get this straight, the Pedophiles are at war with queer folx? It legal to sexually abuse children but illegal to drive a car based on a deviation from birth gender.

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                    @darrylhebbes basically.

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                    • 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴  (🌈🦄)A 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴 (🌈🦄)

                      #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                      The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                      Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                      Kansas Sends Letters To Trans People Demanding The Immediate Surrender Of Drivers Licenses

                      "The legislature did not include a grace period."

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                      Kansas Advancing Anti-Trans Bill Allowing Bounty Hunters To Patrol Private Business Bathrooms

                      The bill, which is racing through the Kansas legislature, stands a significant chance of passing the Senate.

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                      #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                      @alice
                      Home of the brave and the land of the free.

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                      • 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴  (🌈🦄)A 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴 (🌈🦄)

                        #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                        The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                        Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                        Kansas Sends Letters To Trans People Demanding The Immediate Surrender Of Drivers Licenses

                        "The legislature did not include a grace period."

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                        Kansas Advancing Anti-Trans Bill Allowing Bounty Hunters To Patrol Private Business Bathrooms

                        The bill, which is racing through the Kansas legislature, stands a significant chance of passing the Senate.

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                        #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                        @alice

                        Apartheid.

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                        • WernerW Werner

                          @alice

                          My European driving licence has an entry about which vehicles I'm allowed to drive. And if I would be required to wear glasses.

                          Nothing about my sex.

                          Even though some people (almost always men) express their feelings of inferiority by choosing an overpowered vehicle - nobody (at least somehow sane) drives it with their genitalia.

                          These law makers in Kansas are batshit crazy. My sympathy to all who are affected.

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                          @wvs @alice In the UK there's no separate field for it but it's encoded in the driver number 😞

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                          • hot tran*sexual menaceM hot tran*sexual menace

                            @B_Bird @alice fascism promises things it cannot do; so it has to deliver on "the distractions"

                            There were a lot of German Jews who wouldn't believe the fascists could do what they did. Don't be there when it's too late to leave.

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                            @missqarnstein @B_Bird @alice

                            If you choose to flee to Canada, just make sure you don't end up in Alberta or Nova Scotia.

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                              #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                              The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                              Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                              #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                              @alice I felt like I was making a sober assessment of the dangers this time around and I *still* manage to be surprised by how quickly and horribly things are progressing.

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                                #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                                The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                                Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                                #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                                @alice but the DOW is up 5 gajillion points so it's cooooool 😎 /s

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                                • Nuwagaba GiftN Nuwagaba Gift

                                  @alice
                                  Many people don't strive to end this until they're direct victims There are many black folks and immigrants that think it's non of their business. What can be done to stop them?

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                                  @nuwagaba2 I think all the vulnerable groups (like LGBTQIA+, women, BIPoC, immigrants, disabled, and neurodivergent folx) already know what's coming...

                                  It's the cishet white folks—especially the men—that need to step the fuck up and help change things.

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                                  • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                                    @Ilka4You @swaldman @alice

                                    Please tell me exactly how, for example Black people "could have prevented what came upon them" with the Trump Administration. Or trans people.

                                    Risking death while fighting an evil regime is honorable. Telling _other_ people to risk death while fighting an evil regime... is less so. I will judge Trump supporters, but I will _not_ judge others who have to make that kind of decision.

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                                    @juergen_hubert @Ilka4You @swaldman @alice What should we do?

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                                      #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                                      The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                                      Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                                      #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                                      @alice @tankgrrl is the trick to defeating this shit forcing everyone to prove their sex-at-birth in order to use the restroom?

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                                      • The Orange ThemeT The Orange Theme

                                        @juergen_hubert @Ilka4You @swaldman @alice What should we do?

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                                        @theorangetheme @Ilka4You @swaldman @alice

                                        I dunno. I'm not going to play armchair general to people who are directly in the firing line.

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                                        • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                                          @Ilka4You @swaldman @alice

                                          I think you _vastly_ overestimate the attraction of Europe for Americans. Most people will not ever move away from their home country because that's where their support networks are, even as the situation becomes worse and worse.

                                          And even now, I have seen immigrants to the USA that they prefer living in progressive cities there than in comparably close-minded Europe. We are not the shining beacons of enlightenment we imagine ourselves to be.

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                                          @juergen_hubert indeed, and thank you.

                                          I have a queer kid. I'm also queer. We moved to the UK a while back during Covid. My kid attended a UK school, and I worked for a UK company. Our impression over the two years we were there is that the UK (at least the parts we lived/worked/etc) is significantly more authoritarian than Seattle (where we're from). We ended up moving back, despite the shitty rural conservatives in the US.

                                          For all its problems, the US is a *mostly* good place. It's a *tiny*, *ultra-rich* minority of straight white men, and their stupid followers that have stolen this country and seem intent on driving it into the ground before pissing on the ashes.

                                          And there's a *tiny*, but growing, *not-ultra-rich*, number of us vulnerable minority groups that *are* fighting *hard* to restore some modicum of sanity and compassion. But there's also a huge swath of cishet white folks in between the two groups that don't care as long as the war doesn't affect them too much.

                                          @Ilka4You @swaldman

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