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Supersized American cars shouldn’t be a barrier to Canadians getting some great European options - Why are we banning small cars from being sold in Canada?

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  • N nyan@lemmy.cafe

    A contributing factor may be the number of American car companies with factories here—I mean, there are a few European/Japanese/whatever auto brands that do some manufacturing here too, but not as much. It’s an industry that seems to have a political voice that’s larger than its contribution to the national economy (or at least, that’s the impression one gets from the news here in Ontario). Lobbying to tweak the rules to make certification easier for American vehicles than others seems on-brand.

    If that is part of the reason, Trump may have torpedoed it, but it’ll take years for the mess to untangle itself even so.

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    canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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    It’s not just you, it’s part of what feeds into the western province grievance thing.

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    • R reddig33@lemmy.world

      Chinese vehicles are built with subsidies and sometimes even slave labor to flood the market at artificially low prices.

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      Kindness is Punk
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      The tech and production capacity is good, there just needs to be stricter oversight because at this moment there are no other producers of low cost EVs and I don’t really care if they’re subsidized when the other players on the market are 15 years behind.

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      • K Kindness is Punk

        The tech and production capacity is good, there just needs to be stricter oversight because at this moment there are no other producers of low cost EVs and I don’t really care if they’re subsidized when the other players on the market are 15 years behind.

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        reddig33@lemmy.world
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        You should care where your money goes. Buying cheap Chinese produced cars results in your money being utilized to support Russia in the Ukranian war.

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        • D dom@lemmy.ca

          Bolt euv is relatively low cost. You can get one used for even less

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          lemonysplit@lemmy.ca
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          Way too expensive still. And the equinox ev was supposed to be lower msrp than the bolt then they release it at $45-$50k msrp 🤦‍♂️

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          • R reddig33@lemmy.world

            Chinese vehicles are built with subsidies and sometimes even slave labor to flood the market at artificially low prices.

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            bastingchemina@slrpnk.net
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            American ICE manufacturers received way more subsidies than Chinese EV manufacturers.

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            • R reddig33@lemmy.world

              Chinese vehicles are built with subsidies and sometimes even slave labor to flood the market at artificially low prices.

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              oh noes please save me from the being offered the chance to buy modern, well built, and affordable EVs 😢

              One more oversized gas guzzler for maximum price please. And shaft me on the services too.

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              • S slartybartfast@sh.itjust.works

                I would like an armoured bicycle

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                revan343@lemmy.ca
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                Armour defeats the purpose of a bicycle, which is being nimble

                I would like an armed bicycle

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                • C canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org

                  It’s not just you, it’s part of what feeds into the western province grievance thing.

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                  sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca
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                  What’s to be aggrieved about? I’ve never once heard the auto industry being a factor in western alienation. And I’ve written papers on the subject.

                  The auto industry is Canada’s largest manufacturing industry, contributing more than $15B to GDP and 500,000 good paying jobs. There’s good reason to protect it.

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                  • T twopi@lemmy.ca

                    When the west does it it’s called freedom but when China foes it it’d called artificial tyranny.

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                    RaivoKulli
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                    So is it okay because the West does it too or wdym

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                    • M mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca

                      not to mention that you’re punished for it if you don’t buy a high riding vehicle, because every other vehicle nowadays has weaponized headlights for lowbeams

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                      ikidd@lemmy.world
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                      They hit me right in the eyes even when I’m driving a heavy truck.

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                      • S sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca

                        What’s to be aggrieved about? I’ve never once heard the auto industry being a factor in western alienation. And I’ve written papers on the subject.

                        The auto industry is Canada’s largest manufacturing industry, contributing more than $15B to GDP and 500,000 good paying jobs. There’s good reason to protect it.

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                        canadaplus@lemmy.sdf.org
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                        #38

                        Yes there is, especially given how vulnerable it will be to Trump messing with the border, and how it could theoretically carry on with a bit of help. That being said, relative to the amount it generates for the economy it does seem to have extra political pull, like OP said. Maybe because people prize manufacturing over services or natural resources.

                        I’ve never once heard the auto industry being a factor in western alienation. And I’ve written papers on the subject.

                        Really? Well, let me be a primary source for you: More than once, the auto industry has come up IRL in rural Alberta, and someone’s said “that’s an Ontario industry so the federal government cares about it”.

                        That’s not necessarily part of the historical origin of the alienation - if you’ve written papers you’ll actually know more about that than me - but it’s definitely folded in now. I remember one conversation where I actually won someone over to EVs a bit with the fact there’s lithium in old oil wells.

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