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  • julianJ julian

    Time for the panel as hosted by deadsuperhero@social.wedistribute.org

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    dansup@mastodon.social is on stage now!

    Day 2 of FediCon begins…

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      Man, the past 5 years 😭

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        Dan building up onboarding tools to directly counter instance paralysis. YES!

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          Dan proposing some big ideas to solve AP problems with tech. Nice.

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            @julian What makes you say that?

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              @julian

              Thanks for sharing live(within the last 30 minutes) what happens

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              • Eugen RochkoG Eugen Rochko

                @julian What makes you say that?

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                I can't speak for Julian, but I can talk about my impressions from @boris 's presentation.

                He went through a dozen different apps running on the ATProto network that create custom data types and interactions and distribute them through the network. It's all happening on the client side, so these new apps aren't their own PDS servers; they can concentrate on cool client experience and leave the distribution up to the back end.

                This is almost exactly parallel to the ActivityPub API. It was cool seeing recipes, check-ins, images, events all being created and managed by server less web clients.

                It definitely reenergized me for focusing on the ActivityPub API.

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                  @julian
                  Is there a video livestream?

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                    @julian
                    Is there a video livestream?

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                    No livestream, they're planning on putting the videos up on PeerTube later

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                    • julianJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      benpate@mastodon.social starting off with some Fediverse Potty Words™

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                        “The Fediverse is a refuge because there are assholes in the world”

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                          benpate@mastodon.social with the solutions 👍

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                            High level overview of what we need to do to cross the chasm to reach the early adopters.

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                              A quick shout-out to reiver@mastodon.social who is literally still doing conference org work during the conference.

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                                “The cells in the body are less important than the body itself.”

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                                  Am loving how benpate@mastodon.social is focusing on getting creators onto the fediverse. Important work to cross that chasm!

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                                    @julian @benpate Iconic

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                                    • Eugen RochkoG Eugen Rochko

                                      @julian What makes you say that?

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                                      @Gargron @julian i can't really speak for anyone here as a relative outsider, but as someone that has worked with both protocols i think one big reason is the lack of a public, accessible, synchronous space for discussion, development, and support

                                      the unofficial discord linked in that slide tends to be fairly active - i've managed to receive answers to most of my atproto-related questions there, and as a result i've been able to get stuff done relatively quickly. whenever i've had issues with activitypub projects in the past, i've just sat on them for long periods of time because i wasn't sure where to ask about them (and i never really got much response from posts i made on the network about them either)

                                      i see socialhub as a great place for asynchronous, more formal happenings, but there's not much for more casual happenings right now afaict (though i'd love to be proven wrong in this regard!)

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                                        @Gargron @julian i can't really speak for anyone here as a relative outsider, but as someone that has worked with both protocols i think one big reason is the lack of a public, accessible, synchronous space for discussion, development, and support

                                        the unofficial discord linked in that slide tends to be fairly active - i've managed to receive answers to most of my atproto-related questions there, and as a result i've been able to get stuff done relatively quickly. whenever i've had issues with activitypub projects in the past, i've just sat on them for long periods of time because i wasn't sure where to ask about them (and i never really got much response from posts i made on the network about them either)

                                        i see socialhub as a great place for asynchronous, more formal happenings, but there's not much for more casual happenings right now afaict (though i'd love to be proven wrong in this regard!)

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                                        @esm @Gargron @julian as someone who's also on the outside looking in, I kind of have to concur here. nobody's really having fun. even on socialhub, all I really see is just the same few people people getting really pedantic and argumentative over implementation details and whether rdf is good and where the bike shed for the nuclear reactor should be built. contrast atproto, where people can just be like "I built a toilet social network because it's funny."

                                        I think that activitypub sorely needs more creativity and experimentation and people pushing the protocol in ways that are super unexpected, as well as having developers welcome new people on board and helping them get up to speed (and the casual discussion space that essem mentioned). doing this will probably bring a lot of much needed diversity and progress to the space imo

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                                        • eblu 🐘E eblu 🐘

                                          @esm @Gargron @julian as someone who's also on the outside looking in, I kind of have to concur here. nobody's really having fun. even on socialhub, all I really see is just the same few people people getting really pedantic and argumentative over implementation details and whether rdf is good and where the bike shed for the nuclear reactor should be built. contrast atproto, where people can just be like "I built a toilet social network because it's funny."

                                          I think that activitypub sorely needs more creativity and experimentation and people pushing the protocol in ways that are super unexpected, as well as having developers welcome new people on board and helping them get up to speed (and the casual discussion space that essem mentioned). doing this will probably bring a lot of much needed diversity and progress to the space imo

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                                          eblu@wetdry.world said in Fedicon Livestream: > even on socialhub, all I really see is just the same few people people getting really pedantic and argumentative over implementation details and whether rdf is good and where the bike shed for the nuclear reactor should be built. contrast atproto, where people can just be like “I built a toilet social network because it’s funny.”

                                          I’d love to put some of my creative and cat-herding energies toward developing an implementor-first place for AP developer support. I often make the claim that AP-related discussion should take place over ActivityPub, so I’d love to put that into practice.

                                          I’m not a chat-first person, so Discord isn’t my first option, but there are other options…!

                                          cc gargron@mastodon.social esm@wetdry.world

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