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  • Jesse KarmaniJ This user is from outside of this forum
    Jesse KarmaniJ This user is from outside of this forum
    Jesse Karmani
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    #1

    @frequency now fully supports FEP-7888 as of yesterday! (It has been generating outbound context since the beginning of the year, but I just finished fetching all remote replies from the context as well.)

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    Implement FEP-7888 - conversation context by jesseplusplus · Pull Request #188 · jesseplusplus/decodon

    This PR implements FEP-7888 by: generating a context property and including it in the ActivityPub json-ld for all Statuses consuming the context property on incoming objects and fetching all obje...

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    GitHub (github.com)

    I'll hold off on trying to upstream this to Mastodon until after the 4.4.0 release to make sure I'm not conflicting with anything they changed.

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    • Jesse KarmaniJ Jesse Karmani

      @frequency now fully supports FEP-7888 as of yesterday! (It has been generating outbound context since the beginning of the year, but I just finished fetching all remote replies from the context as well.)

      Link Preview Image
      Implement FEP-7888 - conversation context by jesseplusplus · Pull Request #188 · jesseplusplus/decodon

      This PR implements FEP-7888 by: generating a context property and including it in the ActivityPub json-ld for all Statuses consuming the context property on incoming objects and fetching all obje...

      favicon

      GitHub (github.com)

      I'll hold off on trying to upstream this to Mastodon until after the 4.4.0 release to make sure I'm not conflicting with anything they changed.

      julianJ This user is from outside of this forum
      julianJ This user is from outside of this forum
      julian
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      #2

      jesseplusplus@mastodon.social this is awesome!!

      I have to give this a spin against NodeBB tomorrow!!

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      • julianJ julian

        jesseplusplus@mastodon.social this is awesome!!

        I have to give this a spin against NodeBB tomorrow!!

        Jesse KarmaniJ This user is from outside of this forum
        Jesse KarmaniJ This user is from outside of this forum
        Jesse Karmani
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        #3

        @julian woohoo! Yes, please. Let me know if you see any issues with it. I was using one of your NodeBB threads as my test case for fetching context 🤓

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        • Jesse KarmaniJ Jesse Karmani

          @julian woohoo! Yes, please. Let me know if you see any issues with it. I was using one of your NodeBB threads as my test case for fetching context 🤓

          julianJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          julian
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          #4

          jesseplusplus@mastodon.social one technical issue I came across was that a context could potentially provide object ids that temporarily or permanently do not resolve.

          That caused issues because internal NodeBB logic required that every inReplyTo referenced a valid id… So everything following that branch didn’t end up making it in.

          Not sure if you experienced anything similar.

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          • Jesse KarmaniJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            Jesse Karmani
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            #5

            @julian I haven’t seen that issue so far, but I’ll look into it. I tried to reuse the existing mastodon code for reply fetching as much as possible.. not sure how much more they handle that besides trying the fetch again later in case it’s temporarily not resolving. I don’t think they have as strict of a requirement for valid inReplyTo ids though.

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            • Jesse KarmaniJ Jesse Karmani

              @julian I haven’t seen that issue so far, but I’ll look into it. I tried to reuse the existing mastodon code for reply fetching as much as possible.. not sure how much more they handle that besides trying the fetch again later in case it’s temporarily not resolving. I don’t think they have as strict of a requirement for valid inReplyTo ids though.

              julianJ This user is from outside of this forum
              julianJ This user is from outside of this forum
              julian
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              #6

              jesseplusplus@mastodon.social yeah that’s the thing. I think the solution for me is to loosen the restriction and handle cases where the object isn’t represented locally.

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              • Jesse KarmaniJ This user is from outside of this forum
                Jesse KarmaniJ This user is from outside of this forum
                Jesse Karmani
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                #7

                @julian I think that makes sense. As the spec progresses, I can see you running into other use cases where ids are referenced in various collections, but you can’t access the object, either because it’s unavailable or due to lack of permissions.

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                • silverpillS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  silverpill
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                  #8

                  @julian @jesseplusplus Works fine for me. There is a difference in collection type though (others use OrderedCollection).

                  I've added Decodon to the list of software that publish collections of posts: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/pulls/644

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                  • silverpillS silverpill

                    @julian @jesseplusplus Works fine for me. There is a difference in collection type though (others use OrderedCollection).

                    I've added Decodon to the list of software that publish collections of posts: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/pulls/644

                    Jesse KarmaniJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Jesse Karmani
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                    #9

                    @silverpill awesome, thanks for testing and adding to the list!

                    I'd love to use `OrderedCollection` here but fell back to following Mastodon's convention for the replies collection. (Mastodon doesn't currently index notes on creation time, so that kind of ordering isn't performant.)

                    I do return them ordered by id to make it as nice as possible, but this isn't guaranteed to be the creation order depending on when my server saw different replies, so I'm still marking it as unordered.

                    @julian

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                    • Jesse KarmaniJ Jesse Karmani

                      @silverpill awesome, thanks for testing and adding to the list!

                      I'd love to use `OrderedCollection` here but fell back to following Mastodon's convention for the replies collection. (Mastodon doesn't currently index notes on creation time, so that kind of ordering isn't performant.)

                      I do return them ordered by id to make it as nice as possible, but this isn't guaranteed to be the creation order depending on when my server saw different replies, so I'm still marking it as unordered.

                      @julian

                      julianJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      julian
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                      jesseplusplus@mastodon.social silverpill@mitra.social I think the ordering would be nice but even if an OrderedCollection was sent back I don’t know if you can trust the order of items as received.

                      I wouldn’t want to introduce a hard requirement on it being an OrderedCollection, personally.

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                      • Jesse KarmaniJ Jesse Karmani

                        @frequency now fully supports FEP-7888 as of yesterday! (It has been generating outbound context since the beginning of the year, but I just finished fetching all remote replies from the context as well.)

                        Link Preview Image
                        Implement FEP-7888 - conversation context by jesseplusplus · Pull Request #188 · jesseplusplus/decodon

                        This PR implements FEP-7888 by: generating a context property and including it in the ActivityPub json-ld for all Statuses consuming the context property on incoming objects and fetching all obje...

                        favicon

                        GitHub (github.com)

                        I'll hold off on trying to upstream this to Mastodon until after the 4.4.0 release to make sure I'm not conflicting with anything they changed.

                        Daniel SupernaultD This user is from outside of this forum
                        Daniel SupernaultD This user is from outside of this forum
                        Daniel Supernault
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                        #11

                        @jesseplusplus @frequency wow, great work! Frequency looks really cool, and your doing some really pioneering work like Circles.

                        We should chat, I’d love to improve compatibility with Pixelfed and explore new experiences together if you are interested!

                        We need more photo/video platforms like yours so we don’t suffer from a monoculture like Pixelfed, which ngl is kinda rare when you think about it. Anyways, take care!

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                        • Daniel SupernaultD Daniel Supernault

                          @jesseplusplus @frequency wow, great work! Frequency looks really cool, and your doing some really pioneering work like Circles.

                          We should chat, I’d love to improve compatibility with Pixelfed and explore new experiences together if you are interested!

                          We need more photo/video platforms like yours so we don’t suffer from a monoculture like Pixelfed, which ngl is kinda rare when you think about it. Anyways, take care!

                          julianJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          julian
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          dansup@mastodon.social are you interested in getting reply backfill working with Pixelfed? Let’s chat at FediCon 😎

                          cc jesseplusplus@mastodon.social

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                          • Daniel SupernaultD This user is from outside of this forum
                            Daniel SupernaultD This user is from outside of this forum
                            Daniel Supernault
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                            #13

                            @julian @jesseplusplus Yes I am, and sounds good!

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                            • Daniel SupernaultD Daniel Supernault

                              @jesseplusplus @frequency wow, great work! Frequency looks really cool, and your doing some really pioneering work like Circles.

                              We should chat, I’d love to improve compatibility with Pixelfed and explore new experiences together if you are interested!

                              We need more photo/video platforms like yours so we don’t suffer from a monoculture like Pixelfed, which ngl is kinda rare when you think about it. Anyways, take care!

                              Jesse KarmaniJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              Jesse KarmaniJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              Jesse Karmani
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              🫶🏻 aw thanks @dansup!

                              I’d love to collaborate on better compatibility with pixelfed! I’m super interested in trying to get stories in frequency like you have in pixelfed someday!

                              I’m planning to be at FediCon, so I’d love to meet ya and scheme on what kinda cool stuff we can do 😎

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                              • Jesse KarmaniJ Jesse Karmani

                                @frequency now fully supports FEP-7888 as of yesterday! (It has been generating outbound context since the beginning of the year, but I just finished fetching all remote replies from the context as well.)

                                Link Preview Image
                                Implement FEP-7888 - conversation context by jesseplusplus · Pull Request #188 · jesseplusplus/decodon

                                This PR implements FEP-7888 by: generating a context property and including it in the ActivityPub json-ld for all Statuses consuming the context property on incoming objects and fetching all obje...

                                favicon

                                GitHub (github.com)

                                I'll hold off on trying to upstream this to Mastodon until after the 4.4.0 release to make sure I'm not conflicting with anything they changed.

                                Sean TilleyD This user is from outside of this forum
                                Sean TilleyD This user is from outside of this forum
                                Sean Tilley
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                                #15

                                Jesse Karmani frequency Great work!

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                                • Sean TilleyD Sean Tilley

                                  Jesse Karmani frequency Great work!

                                  Jesse KarmaniJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Jesse KarmaniJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Jesse Karmani
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                                  #16

                                  @deadsuperhero @frequency thanks! 😊

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