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  • D dukeofdummies@lemmy.world

    See, this is one of the things that drive me batty with so much new hardware.

    With an old car, if this happened you’d get warnings. If a door is open your car would warn you and beep occasionally. It was still an entirely functional car.

    But now… cars won’t warn you, they stop you. It doesn’t even feel like my car at that point.

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    jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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    But if you get in an accident and somehow blame the manufacturer then they could be liable, better to just stop you then risk lawsuits.

    The US lawsuit happy culture lead to this imo

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    • M macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world

      Car is not a gangster.

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      azx3ric@lemmy.world
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      Originally German.

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        falidorn@lemmy.world
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        I’m still waiting for textures to load in. Lighting model needs some work too.

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        • D dukeofdummies@lemmy.world

          See, this is one of the things that drive me batty with so much new hardware.

          With an old car, if this happened you’d get warnings. If a door is open your car would warn you and beep occasionally. It was still an entirely functional car.

          But now… cars won’t warn you, they stop you. It doesn’t even feel like my car at that point.

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          eat_your_paisley@lemm.ee
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          Because its not your car just like its not your phone, software, and music.

          Great build quality for a six figure car

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            dermanus@lemmy.ca
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            Hah, your dumb car is all “frunked” up

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            • redDEADR redDEAD

              Reading isn’t hard… If the front truck isn’t properly latched the vehicle’s speed is limited to 15 mph. Technically you can drive it to the service center.

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              phdepressed@sh.itjust.works
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              Depending on distance to the service center this could be quite impractical. Tesla doesn’t have that many so its expected to be some distance away if an issue occurs.

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              • TomMaszT TomMasz

                Wait, you need to be towed if the “frunk” doesn’t close all the way???

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                greyfox@lemmy.world
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                Well if you rephrase it for a normal car it doesn’t sound so absurd. “If your hood won’t latch the car won’t let you drive at highway speeds?”

                A failed latch on a front compartment can be very dangerous because it catches the wind if it opens suddenly at 60+mph. At best you are blinded, or it gets torn off to go flying into a car behind you.

                As such, highway speeds should be restricted if the latch is malfunctioning. The real problem here is that Tesla doesn’t like dealers because they want that middleman money for themselves, so you often have to drive quite the distance to get it repaired. If this were a vehicle from any of the other major manufacturers most people are probably only a few miles from their nearest dealer.

                Normal cars have two hood latches. Your primary latch (that you open with the hood pull in the car) and a secondary safety latch (when you reach under the hood to open it fully) so this problem is an extremely uncommon problem for a normal car.

                But since this is a frunk it gets opened a lot more for storage and users would probably not be very happy about having to deal with the secondary latch on a regular basis. So they have motorized those latches for ease of use, and motorizing them adds a lot more points of failure.

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                  crusa187@lemmy.ml
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                  love to see it

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                  • G greyfox@lemmy.world

                    Well if you rephrase it for a normal car it doesn’t sound so absurd. “If your hood won’t latch the car won’t let you drive at highway speeds?”

                    A failed latch on a front compartment can be very dangerous because it catches the wind if it opens suddenly at 60+mph. At best you are blinded, or it gets torn off to go flying into a car behind you.

                    As such, highway speeds should be restricted if the latch is malfunctioning. The real problem here is that Tesla doesn’t like dealers because they want that middleman money for themselves, so you often have to drive quite the distance to get it repaired. If this were a vehicle from any of the other major manufacturers most people are probably only a few miles from their nearest dealer.

                    Normal cars have two hood latches. Your primary latch (that you open with the hood pull in the car) and a secondary safety latch (when you reach under the hood to open it fully) so this problem is an extremely uncommon problem for a normal car.

                    But since this is a frunk it gets opened a lot more for storage and users would probably not be very happy about having to deal with the secondary latch on a regular basis. So they have motorized those latches for ease of use, and motorizing them adds a lot more points of failure.

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                    scrion@lemmy.world
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                    Coincidentally, I repaired the latch on my car today. There was enough grime on the bearing that the tension of the spring wasn’t enough to retain the hook screwed to the hood. Unscrewing the whole latch, cleaning the grease off and spraying some WD40 on it to prevent it from rusting fixed that right up.

                    It’s such a simple mechanism that the whole fix took 10 minutes, and it’s the first and only time that ever happened, after 125.000 miles.

                    It got stuck on a trip, the hood opened a little, right up to the second hook you mentioned, so I used some speed tape to hold the hood down and be extra safe until I made it home to fix the underlying issue. This option doesn’t exist on the ridiculous mess that is the Cybertruck.

                    It’s not that the idea isn’t right, it’s that they tried so hard to make it overly smart, but failed in almost every aspect.

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                      Cybercuck gets cyberfucked

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                      • J jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works

                        But if you get in an accident and somehow blame the manufacturer then they could be liable, better to just stop you then risk lawsuits.

                        The US lawsuit happy culture lead to this imo

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                        megaman@discuss.tchncs.de
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                        Maybe other car companies will go to this but, well, they arent doing this right now. So it would seem that the every other car company did the calculus and they are not concerned about lawsuit risks in this regard.

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                        • D dukeofdummies@lemmy.world

                          See, this is one of the things that drive me batty with so much new hardware.

                          With an old car, if this happened you’d get warnings. If a door is open your car would warn you and beep occasionally. It was still an entirely functional car.

                          But now… cars won’t warn you, they stop you. It doesn’t even feel like my car at that point.

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                          jimmycakes@lemmy.world
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                          In older cars you would die from the smallest crashes now they got all these pesky air bags ugh they are the worst

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                          • J jimmycakes@lemmy.world

                            In older cars you would die from the smallest crashes now they got all these pesky air bags ugh they are the worst

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                            dukeofdummies@lemmy.world
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                            Airbags can deploy (erroneously or not) and the car can still drive.

                            If a car refuses to move because its airbags have been deployed (or think they’ve been deployed) then you could be stranded in the middle of nowhere for no other reason than a single part of your car is unhappy.

                            Your frunk can be bodged shut with duct tape.

                            The entire point of your car is to move from point A to point B. Disabling that feature should only happen due to physics, not a minor problem.

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                            • S scrion@lemmy.world

                              Coincidentally, I repaired the latch on my car today. There was enough grime on the bearing that the tension of the spring wasn’t enough to retain the hook screwed to the hood. Unscrewing the whole latch, cleaning the grease off and spraying some WD40 on it to prevent it from rusting fixed that right up.

                              It’s such a simple mechanism that the whole fix took 10 minutes, and it’s the first and only time that ever happened, after 125.000 miles.

                              It got stuck on a trip, the hood opened a little, right up to the second hook you mentioned, so I used some speed tape to hold the hood down and be extra safe until I made it home to fix the underlying issue. This option doesn’t exist on the ridiculous mess that is the Cybertruck.

                              It’s not that the idea isn’t right, it’s that they tried so hard to make it overly smart, but failed in almost every aspect.

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                              cynar@lemmy.world
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                              You likely already know, but just in case (and for any readers who don’t know).

                              WD40 is a water displacement compound and so acts as a degreaser and rust softener. It strips the oil and crap off a part, letting it move. It also strips the protective coating off as well. It will rust rapidly without this.

                              If you use WD40 you need to follow up with replacement oil, or other protection and lubricant. Without it, it will seize up again quite quickly.

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                              • J jimmycakes@lemmy.world

                                In older cars you would die from the smallest crashes now they got all these pesky air bags ugh they are the worst

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                                scbasteve7@lemm.ee
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                                Wanting to drive with a broken frunk latch = not being able to appreciate the improved quality of safety.

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                                • G greyfox@lemmy.world

                                  Well if you rephrase it for a normal car it doesn’t sound so absurd. “If your hood won’t latch the car won’t let you drive at highway speeds?”

                                  A failed latch on a front compartment can be very dangerous because it catches the wind if it opens suddenly at 60+mph. At best you are blinded, or it gets torn off to go flying into a car behind you.

                                  As such, highway speeds should be restricted if the latch is malfunctioning. The real problem here is that Tesla doesn’t like dealers because they want that middleman money for themselves, so you often have to drive quite the distance to get it repaired. If this were a vehicle from any of the other major manufacturers most people are probably only a few miles from their nearest dealer.

                                  Normal cars have two hood latches. Your primary latch (that you open with the hood pull in the car) and a secondary safety latch (when you reach under the hood to open it fully) so this problem is an extremely uncommon problem for a normal car.

                                  But since this is a frunk it gets opened a lot more for storage and users would probably not be very happy about having to deal with the secondary latch on a regular basis. So they have motorized those latches for ease of use, and motorizing them adds a lot more points of failure.

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                                  TomMasz
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                                  That’s the issue here. It’s so automated that if even the slightest thing goes wrong, the vehicle goes into a mode that makes it difficult to continue, though not impossible. I wouldn’t have chosen to get towed in this instance, since it still drives, but had they been on a highway, it would have been dangerous/illegal to continue at 15 mph. It feels like this was a design decision made without considering the consequences.

                                  I’ve seen what happens when a hood opens at highway speed. No one was hurt, but that driver probably filled their pants, if you know what I mean.

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                                  • C cynar@lemmy.world

                                    You likely already know, but just in case (and for any readers who don’t know).

                                    WD40 is a water displacement compound and so acts as a degreaser and rust softener. It strips the oil and crap off a part, letting it move. It also strips the protective coating off as well. It will rust rapidly without this.

                                    If you use WD40 you need to follow up with replacement oil, or other protection and lubricant. Without it, it will seize up again quite quickly.

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                                    scrion@lemmy.world
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                                    I thought about adding a comment, but eventually got lazy. But you’re right - I also always make a point of reminding people WD40 is not a good lubricant, so I should have added that, PSA and all.

                                    So, for the record: in this case, I followed it up with an all-weather synthetic chain oil since the stuff I have on hand does have excellent corrosion protection and does in fact lube the bearings in my particular latch mechanism, while lasting.

                                    Thanks for bringing that up.

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                                    • S scrion@lemmy.world

                                      I thought about adding a comment, but eventually got lazy. But you’re right - I also always make a point of reminding people WD40 is not a good lubricant, so I should have added that, PSA and all.

                                      So, for the record: in this case, I followed it up with an all-weather synthetic chain oil since the stuff I have on hand does have excellent corrosion protection and does in fact lube the bearings in my particular latch mechanism, while lasting.

                                      Thanks for bringing that up.

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                                      cynar@lemmy.world
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                                      I’ve seen too many bicycles destroyed by this over the years. People clean them off in the autumn , then wonder why the gears are rusted to hell in the spring.

                                      I’ve some relatives who always did this to things, then complained about it. It made me a little… reactive to it.

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                                      • J jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works

                                        But if you get in an accident and somehow blame the manufacturer then they could be liable, better to just stop you then risk lawsuits.

                                        The US lawsuit happy culture lead to this imo

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                                        a7thstone@lemmy.world
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                                        Another stooge who’s swallowed the corporate propaganda of frivolous lawsuits.

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                                        • A a7thstone@lemmy.world

                                          Another stooge who’s swallowed the corporate propaganda of frivolous lawsuits.

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                                          jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
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                                          What? It’s a real thing, sometimes it’s bullshit on the manufacturer’s side, sometimes it’s bullshit by the person suing. Regardless a lot of lawsuits means companies try to force as much of the risk onto consumers instead. That’s not corporate propaganda, it’s understandable capitalist bullshit

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