Skip to content
0
  • Home
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
  • Home
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Sketchy)
  • No Skin
Collapse

Wandering Adventure Party

  1. Home
  2. PC Gaming
  3. Epic CEO [Tim Sweeney] says AI disclosures like Steam's make "no sense" because AI will be involved in "nearly all" future game development

Epic CEO [Tim Sweeney] says AI disclosures like Steam's make "no sense" because AI will be involved in "nearly all" future game development

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved PC Gaming
pcgaming
134 Posts 102 Posters 29 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
    This post did not contain any content.
    K This user is from outside of this forum
    K This user is from outside of this forum
    kiwitb@lemmy.world
    wrote on last edited by
    #16

    Tim continues to not ‘read the room’

    dan1101@lemmy.worldD 1 Reply Last reply
    38
    • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
      This post did not contain any content.
      I This user is from outside of this forum
      I This user is from outside of this forum
      ilixtze@lemmy.ml
      wrote on last edited by
      #17

      It is useful to know what games i want to avoid and boycott.

      1 Reply Last reply
      11
      • J jaselle@lemmy.ca

        What are his intentions?

        Agent_KaryoA This user is from outside of this forum
        Agent_KaryoA This user is from outside of this forum
        Agent_Karyo
        wrote on last edited by
        #18

        Wannabe American oligarch.

        The things he allegedly argues against (Apple/Google app store restrictions) is what he would implement (word for word copy/paste arguments) if he was in their position.

        Typical corrupt scum.

        1 Reply Last reply
        14
        • W who

          PC gamers (sample size: at least 1) say they struggle to think of anything valuable that Tim Sweeney has ever said.

          apotheotic (she/her)A This user is from outside of this forum
          apotheotic (she/her)A This user is from outside of this forum
          apotheotic (she/her)
          wrote on last edited by
          #19

          Up that sample size to 2 baybee

          1 Reply Last reply
          20
          • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
            This post did not contain any content.
            durandal@lemmy.todayD This user is from outside of this forum
            durandal@lemmy.todayD This user is from outside of this forum
            durandal@lemmy.today
            wrote on last edited by
            #20

            We’re seeing the rise of push back against AI gen stuff… https://www.theverge.com/entertainment/827650/indie-developers-gen-ai-nexon-arc-raiders

            Doubling down on the glazing of the ai bubble is pretty on brand for him. In before “tim sues steam for spurious claims against ai” or some other bullshit.

            Sidenote: IsThereAnyDeal.com has the steam ai declarations as part of the quick reference section on game pages now. https://mastodon.social/@isthereanydeal/115606686918493913

            1 Reply Last reply
            45
            • P PonyOfWar

              Even if that did happen, it wouldn’t defeat the point of the disclosures at all. In fact, people will appreciate it all the more if a game is made without any AI involvement and it will become a selling point.

              K This user is from outside of this forum
              K This user is from outside of this forum
              kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              wrote on last edited by
              #21

              I only play organic games.

              Z 1 Reply Last reply
              32
              • P PonyOfWar

                Even if that did happen, it wouldn’t defeat the point of the disclosures at all. In fact, people will appreciate it all the more if a game is made without any AI involvement and it will become a selling point.

                B This user is from outside of this forum
                B This user is from outside of this forum
                blamethepeacock@lemmy.ca
                wrote on last edited by
                #22

                At a very near point though, it’s likely going to be impossible to do it without AI involvement, or at the very least without proving you didn’t somehow.

                AI is being baked into almost every dev and art tool. They aren’t just talking about using ChatGPT, if your game uses a single texture or model that ever got touched by a machine learning algorithm, you’re using AI.

                P 1 Reply Last reply
                4
                • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
                  This post did not contain any content.
                  N This user is from outside of this forum
                  N This user is from outside of this forum
                  Nils
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #23

                  Then some clueless person complains that Steam dominates the market. When Epic is constantly shooting their foot.

                  People like to make informed decisions and those labels help. In proper countries even beer have content labels to say if there is rice or corn with the barley.

                  Y I 2 Replies Last reply
                  21
                  • K kiwitb@lemmy.world

                    Tim continues to not ‘read the room’

                    dan1101@lemmy.worldD This user is from outside of this forum
                    dan1101@lemmy.worldD This user is from outside of this forum
                    dan1101@lemmy.world
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #24

                    On the wrong side of nearly everything. Disappointing, he was a gaming pioneer. Now just a petty greedy corpo.

                    K 1 Reply Last reply
                    13
                    • C carnelian@lemmy.world

                      Plus, shouldn’t he want that information to be front and center anyway if he actually thinks it’s a good thing?

                      Z This user is from outside of this forum
                      Z This user is from outside of this forum
                      zorque@lemmy.world
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #25

                      He, like the that Microsoft suit, has just enough awareness to realize how AI is being thought of by the general public, and knows it would affect his bottom line. Which is really all he cares about.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      45
                      • thingsiplay@beehaw.orgT thingsiplay@beehaw.org

                        lol I just found my 7 year old post on Reddit (when Reddit was cool) of a Epig Games logo creation: https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckepic/comments/bvw5ru/epig_games/

                        Z This user is from outside of this forum
                        Z This user is from outside of this forum
                        zorque@lemmy.world
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #26

                        But pigs are cute 😞

                        Why associate them with such a shit company?

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        23
                        • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
                          This post did not contain any content.
                          🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 K This user is from outside of this forum
                          🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 K This user is from outside of this forum
                          🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #27

                          Tim Sweeny doesn’t understand the very people he wants to have give him money. Like, at all.

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          7
                          • B blamethepeacock@lemmy.ca

                            At a very near point though, it’s likely going to be impossible to do it without AI involvement, or at the very least without proving you didn’t somehow.

                            AI is being baked into almost every dev and art tool. They aren’t just talking about using ChatGPT, if your game uses a single texture or model that ever got touched by a machine learning algorithm, you’re using AI.

                            P This user is from outside of this forum
                            P This user is from outside of this forum
                            PonyOfWar
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #28

                            As long as AI doesn’t take away our hands, it’ll always be perfectly possible to draw our own art, compose our own music and write our own code. And especially in the open-source space, there’s plenty of creative software not jumping on the AI bandwagon.

                            R 1 Reply Last reply
                            26
                            • dan1101@lemmy.worldD dan1101@lemmy.world

                              On the wrong side of nearly everything. Disappointing, he was a gaming pioneer. Now just a petty greedy corpo.

                              K This user is from outside of this forum
                              K This user is from outside of this forum
                              kiwitb@lemmy.world
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #29

                              Yeah, it’s a shame for sure.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              3
                              • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
                                This post did not contain any content.
                                SalS This user is from outside of this forum
                                SalS This user is from outside of this forum
                                Sal
                                wrote on last edited by salamencefury@lemmy.world
                                #30

                                No, it fucking won’t, Tim Sweeney. Go jump off the OG Fortnite BR map so I can default dance on you while you get sent back to the lobby.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                4
                                • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
                                  This post did not contain any content.
                                  A This user is from outside of this forum
                                  A This user is from outside of this forum
                                  artyom
                                  wrote on last edited by artyom@piefed.social
                                  #31

                                  If it’s available in “nearly all” development then you can switch the tag to say “no AI” and then I can continue discovering and buying games that don’t have that BS.

                                  But we all know, as does Sweeney, that that’s a lie. And also that I wouldn’t shop for games on Epic Store anyway, for reasons just like this.

                                  F 1 Reply Last reply
                                  44
                                  • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
                                    This post did not contain any content.
                                    D This user is from outside of this forum
                                    D This user is from outside of this forum
                                    darkkite@lemmy.ml
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #32

                                    I think it should be more descriptive.

                                    using gpt as a stack overflow replacement should be fine or autocomplete for a simple for-loop

                                    using generative npcs, dialog, voice is another thing entirely

                                    apotheotic (she/her)A 1 Reply Last reply
                                    2
                                    • W who

                                      PC gamers (sample size: at least 1) say they struggle to think of anything valuable that Tim Sweeney has ever said.

                                      Y This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Y This user is from outside of this forum
                                      yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #33

                                      He did sue Apple or something. That was good. Let them fight.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • D darkkite@lemmy.ml

                                        I think it should be more descriptive.

                                        using gpt as a stack overflow replacement should be fine or autocomplete for a simple for-loop

                                        using generative npcs, dialog, voice is another thing entirely

                                        apotheotic (she/her)A This user is from outside of this forum
                                        apotheotic (she/her)A This user is from outside of this forum
                                        apotheotic (she/her)
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #34

                                        Plenty of folks add what ai was used for in the description of their game. Works well enough.

                                        Personally I just avoid the games outright if ai was used at all, but yeah

                                        D 1 Reply Last reply
                                        4
                                        • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
                                          This post did not contain any content.
                                          🔰Hurling⚜️Durling🔱H This user is from outside of this forum
                                          🔰Hurling⚜️Durling🔱H This user is from outside of this forum
                                          🔰Hurling⚜️Durling🔱
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #35

                                          They make sense because we don’t want your AI shit Sweeney

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          25

                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                                          • First post
                                            Last post