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Original Crysis suddenly vanishes on Steam in another blow to preservation

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  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 K 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮

    It’s not about the IP. It’s about the actual piece of work.

    Imagine if I drew a new version of the Mona Lisa, and they destroyed the original to display mine instead.

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    k1ck455kc@sh.itjust.works
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    #10

    The comparison is more akin to how they have actually restored the mona lisa with chemical and color correction as a means to make it withstand the test of time. Thats essentially what has happened with the remastered version of this game.

    I understand that in other instances, remasters and remakes might as well be a different game, but if you have played crysis, this is barely the case.

    Im not saying its fine to lose access to original data. All im saying is in this particular case, there isnt much loss to be outraged about. The publishers havent un-alived the IP. We have just lost access to some historical data.

    I am all for preservation. I dont want to underplay the detriments of lost data. I just want to subjectively quantify this loss.

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    • L lordnikon@lemmy.world

      It doesn’t need to be always for sale to be preserved my copy is still there and it’s still playable. It’s only lost of those that paid for it can’t play it.

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      AwesomeLowlander
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      That’s the first and biggest step in it being lost to history.

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      • L lordnikon@lemmy.world

        It doesn’t need to be always for sale to be preserved my copy is still there and it’s still playable. It’s only lost of those that paid for it can’t play it.

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        bigpotato@lemmy.world
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        #12

        And when you die and your next of kin tries to recover your password and gets told by Valve that it’s not within the TOS, your copy will be just as gone and the game will be just as unperserved.

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          bluelander@lemmy.ml
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          #13

          As stated in the article for anyone who missed it: it’s still available on GOG and is DRM free there. It’s also currently discounted to $4.99, so if anyone is worried about having (legal) access to the game then that option is still available (for now).

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          • L lordnikon@lemmy.world

            It doesn’t need to be always for sale to be preserved my copy is still there and it’s still playable. It’s only lost of those that paid for it can’t play it.

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            zedd_prophecy@lemmy.world
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            #14

            The high seas still has it’s copy as well. Heck many times I find the copy on the Internet Archive ready to go.

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            • C crank0271@lemmy.world

              They could use the old one as a placemat to protect a table from having soup spilled on it.

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              Rose Thorne(She/Her)
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              #15

              Goddammit, Roshi, never again.

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                monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
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                when your 2007 nostalgia kicks in

                Not like modern games look much better.

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                • K k1ck455kc@sh.itjust.works

                  The comparison is more akin to how they have actually restored the mona lisa with chemical and color correction as a means to make it withstand the test of time. Thats essentially what has happened with the remastered version of this game.

                  I understand that in other instances, remasters and remakes might as well be a different game, but if you have played crysis, this is barely the case.

                  Im not saying its fine to lose access to original data. All im saying is in this particular case, there isnt much loss to be outraged about. The publishers havent un-alived the IP. We have just lost access to some historical data.

                  I am all for preservation. I dont want to underplay the detriments of lost data. I just want to subjectively quantify this loss.

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                  monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
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                  Nope, digital art doesn’t deteriorate, needs no repainting.

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                    rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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                    I’ll believe a PC game can be actually lost when it is, and I don’t mean online services ending. The game industry would need to figure out how to get rid of piracy entirely but as it stands I can find a copy of this game on archive.

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                    • L lordnikon@lemmy.world

                      It doesn’t need to be always for sale to be preserved my copy is still there and it’s still playable. It’s only lost of those that paid for it can’t play it.

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                      fmstrat
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                      #19

                      That’s not how preservation works.

                      If it’s not made freely available, and is only held by previous purchasers with no transferable rights, it is not preserved.

                      What you are describing is the debate over content ownership, and if that were the topic at hand, you would he spot on. But preservation is something different. Preservation is about the long game.

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                        dicjacobus@lemmy.ca
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                        uh. Shit.

                        I dont even know if I have a digital copy of that game. Not that I was ever gonna play it again…

                        I always considered it a novelty of the 2000s. It was the game I used to break in my first gaming PC, and it wasnt’ even that good of a PC to run it in the first place.

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                          but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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                          But I keep being told the trillionaire corporation steam is 100% ethical and good guys and that the billionaire Gabe is OUR billionaire and loves us!!

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                          • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world

                            But I keep being told the trillionaire corporation steam is 100% ethical and good guys and that the billionaire Gabe is OUR billionaire and loves us!!

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                            Communist
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                            How is this gabes fault? Should gabe ban people from removing their own games from the store?

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                              How is this gabes fault? Should gabe ban people from removing their own games from the store?

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                              but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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                              “Don’t talk bad about MY billionaire! 😭”

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                              • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world

                                “Don’t talk bad about MY billionaire! 😭”

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                                i_has_a_hat@lemmy.world
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                                I really don’t think he was getting at that, it just seems like misdirected blame. It’s like if Nike stopped selling their shoes on Amazon and you went “Fuck you Jeff Bezos!”.

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                                • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world

                                  But I keep being told the trillionaire corporation steam is 100% ethical and good guys and that the billionaire Gabe is OUR billionaire and loves us!!

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                                  SSTF
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                                  It’s unlikely Valve forced the game off the page. Even so, the supposed issue has always been if Steam were to pull games from you that are already in your library (which AFAIK they haven’t) or a future hypothetical where Steam closes down and if people would be able to offline save their libraries.

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                                    It’s unlikely Valve forced the game off the page. Even so, the supposed issue has always been if Steam were to pull games from you that are already in your library (which AFAIK they haven’t) or a future hypothetical where Steam closes down and if people would be able to offline save their libraries.

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                                    but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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                                    If this had happened on ps5 you’d all be blaming Sony

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                                    • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world

                                      If this had happened on ps5 you’d all be blaming Sony

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                                      SSTF
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                                      #27

                                      The original version of Crysis is available right now on GOG and the EA store. PC isn’t a single vendor ecosystem where the only store also owns the hardware to play it.

                                      We also don’t know who decided to pull it. I’d still wager it is unlikely Valve made a unilateral choice or pressured the game off the platform. Look at EA for answers.

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                                      • SSTFS SSTF

                                        The original version of Crysis is available right now on GOG and the EA store. PC isn’t a single vendor ecosystem where the only store also owns the hardware to play it.

                                        We also don’t know who decided to pull it. I’d still wager it is unlikely Valve made a unilateral choice or pressured the game off the platform. Look at EA for answers.

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                                        spikesotherdog@ani.social
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                                        Surely EA is the victim and did nothing wrong and Steam is the antagonist here.

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                                        • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world

                                          But I keep being told the trillionaire corporation steam is 100% ethical and good guys and that the billionaire Gabe is OUR billionaire and loves us!!

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                                          𝙲𝚑𝚊𝚒𝚛𝚖𝚊𝚗 𝙼𝚎𝚘𝚠
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                                          #29

                                          Valve didn’t decide to pull it, and the game is still downloadable if you purchased it before.

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