Hey I got a ticket for going 57 in a school zone where the posted limit is 50, except the road only borders the far end of the school yard at the tip of its soccer field, with no way for students to exit, and the road itself is 4 lanes and should really have a speed limit of 60, and it was Sunday… Easter Sunday to be precise, so it was literally a school zone surrounded by days off.

Imagine if I hadn’t been caught! I’m a Menace II Society, for sure.

This is the way, but good luck getting that implemented. NIMBYs and “frustrated motorists” will push back, and it only takes a few to ruin good ideas.

but they punish the poor the most

Does being poor compel people to speed or something?

The problem is two-fold: one is that our roads are designed to encourage bad driving behaviour, and drivers feel entitled to drive in a way that’s convenient (but not safe).

Have you ever tried to get traffic calming measures implemented in a community, especially around school zones? It’s excruciatingly difficult, and a few complaints from NIMBYs will have those measures removed, wasting taxpayer money and not solving any problems.

It’s infuriating that low powered micromobility devices like e-scooters are so severely restricted, but multi-ton weapons can be operated with almost no enforcement or consequences.

I don’t know how it is up there, but down here in the states those traffic cams are pretty much all run by private for profit companies who take like 99% of the fines for themselves.

So I’ve got no problem with folks destroying them.

Does being poor compel people to speed or something?

No, but $100+ to a poor person could be the difference between literal life and death.

$100+ to someone well off or rich is nothing but pocket change.

The solution to this is sliding scale fines. The better off you are the more you get fined.

Why should a poor person have to spend 90% of their money on a fine when a “rich” person only has to spend 0.0009% for the exact same infraction.

I like reminding my friends in professional law enforcement that these cameras are exactly what losing your job to a machine is about.

Yea we’ve avoided the mass privatization of speed cameras so far and the vast majority of the fines goes into the city municipal budget, where it can be spent pretty much anywhere but often is spent on the roads themselves.

Where do you live with a 50km/h school zone? That is psychotic.

We literally do not have enough law enforcement to properly enforce traffic laws. It is part of why average speeds have crept up to 10-20 over the limit. In fact enforcing traffic laws was kinda just something that was thrown at the police when cars were invented and we’ve never really stopped to think about it since.

Poor people generally don’t own cars, and if you can afford to own a personal vehicle, you can afford to pay for driving like an asshole in one.

How about instead of speed cameras you change your road designs? People won’t speed if they cannot speed safely.

Make your roads less wide. Add some curves, depending on required max speed, you make the curves larger or smaller. On lower speed roads, add obstacles to drive around.

There are many forms of traffic management that don’t require speeding cameras but then again, speeding cameras are for making the government money, not for traffic safety

I don’t know about the guy you are asking, but I have multiple school zones with a 50kph limit in my area as well.

The school zones in my area are 30kph, and a lot of people find that excessive and want it slower, so 50 is wild to me.

You know that you can drive a car you don’t own right? And not every person who is ticketed is driving like an asshole. I got a 100 dollar ticket for driving 57 in what was normally a 50 km zone, but there was brand new signage up that I had literally 4 seconds to read (I went back and timed it) that gave: months of the year, days of the week, and hours of the day that the new 40 km/h speed limit was enforced. But because I can’t read at the speed of light while driving down the road, bam, ticket.

You know that you can drive a car you don’t own right?

You know it costs money to gas, maintain, insure, and/or rent a car right?

And not every person who is ticketed is driving like an asshole. I got a 100 dollar ticket for driving 57 in what was normally a 50 km zone, but there was brand new signage up that I had literally 4 seconds to read (I went back and timed it) that gave: months of the year, days of the week, and hours of the day that the new 40 km/h speed limit was enforced. But because I can’t read at the speed of light while driving down the road, bam, ticket.

Fact of the matter is you were speeding before they adjusted the sign, it is your responsibility as a driver to obey all posted signage, and if you cannot abide by the rules of the road as well as be capable of reading and responding to signage I do not believe you should be allowed to drive because you are a risk to everyone around you.

You deserved that ticket, and I wish they had suspended your license until you were retested.

What a strange disconnected reality you live in.

That or you’re just a troll.

Either way im blocking your dumbass.

LOL, a suspended licence for going 7 kms over the regular speed limit. Yeah, you’re a rational person alright, and I should take any argument you have seriously. Ok.

And you know that you don’t have to gas, maintain, insure or rent a car that you borrow from a friend of family member, right?

Going 7 over the regular limit does not make me a danger to society you absolute lunatic, and it is the responsibility of the government to make sure that signage is CLEAR and READABLE to people on the road.

Have a nice day.

You were going 17 over the posted limit, as per your story, and weren’t aware enough to know about it.

You shouldn’t have a license.

Take care.

I was going 7 over the limit as per my story, a great big 50km/h hour sign where 40 km/h was only enforced certain hours of the day, certain days of the week, certain months of the year, all of which I was expected to read within literal seconds, and didn’t slow down enough in time.

Any traffic enforcement officer would literally laugh in your face if you told them I shouldn’t have a license. Grow a brain. This will be my last post. Jesus Christ you are such a fucking moron.

I believe rural school zones are sometimes 50km/h. In context the non-school zone speed limit is usually 80km/h or more, often with visibility from one horizon to the other and a sprawling parking lot, it’s not quite the same as a congested urban school with a driveway big enough to fit a single bus and dozens of cars parked along the curb.