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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 1st February 2026

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  • gerikson@awful.systemsG gerikson@awful.systems

    Yeah it’s very quiet now that the media (and Musk) isn’t getting the story they hoped for.

    Edit again, I really really wish it hadn’t come to this.

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    fullsquare@awful.systems
    wrote on last edited by
    #11

    it’s quiet because there’s internet shutdown (19 days today) and iranians allowed to go on twitter only gaslight and emit the most disgusting propaganda you’ve likely seen in a while

    if you want to avoid that, you have to either catch iraqi gsm signal from across the border, or use smuggled starlink and hope that neither EW specialist or drone notices you

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    • fullsquare@awful.systemsF fullsquare@awful.systems

      i don’t think that a washed out royal surrounded by iranian version of cubans from miami would be very consequential, however if you compare scale of political persecution between pahlavi and islamic republic eras, this makes savak look downright humanitarian, and i don’t think he would be able to make situation worse either. if my calculator and judgement of sources is correct, then 43k dead protesters mean that islamic republic in two days outdid past 100 years of political repression, twice.

      also, islamic republic heavily exaggerated pahlavi’s brutality in their propaganda, especially early on. for example in constitution there’s mention of “60000 martyrs” but even their own revised estimates for 1979 casualties are over 20x lower

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      istewart@awful.systems
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      #12

      Yes, no doubt the Islamic Republic is run by bloody, murderous, dishonest bastards. My argument is that Western options for handling/imposing political will on the situation have always been limited, and are at a particularly low ebb at the moment. Change is coming to both places, but it sadly may not be change that results in greater stability.

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      • I istewart@awful.systems

        Yes, no doubt the Islamic Republic is run by bloody, murderous, dishonest bastards. My argument is that Western options for handling/imposing political will on the situation have always been limited, and are at a particularly low ebb at the moment. Change is coming to both places, but it sadly may not be change that results in greater stability.

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        fullsquare@awful.systems
        wrote on last edited by
        #13

        Would be much easier if there was any kind of organised opposition within iran, but this is not the case and irgc know what they’re doing

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        • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

          Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

          Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

          Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

          If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

          The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

          Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

          (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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          rook@awful.systems
          wrote on last edited by
          #14

          I have mixed feelings about this one: The Enclosure feedback loop (or how LLMs sabotage existing programming practices by privatizing a public good).

          The author is right that stack overflow has basically shrivelled up and died, and that llm vendors are trying to replace it with private sources of data they’ll never freely share with the rest of us, but I don’t think that chatbot dev sessions are in any way “high quality data”. The number of occasions when a chatbot-user actually introduces genuinely useful and novel information will be low, and the ability of chatbot companies to even detect that circumstance will be lower still. It isn’t enclosing valuable commons, it is squirting sealant around all the doors so the automated fart-huffing system and its audience can’t get any fresh air.

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          • rook@awful.systemsR rook@awful.systems

            I have mixed feelings about this one: The Enclosure feedback loop (or how LLMs sabotage existing programming practices by privatizing a public good).

            The author is right that stack overflow has basically shrivelled up and died, and that llm vendors are trying to replace it with private sources of data they’ll never freely share with the rest of us, but I don’t think that chatbot dev sessions are in any way “high quality data”. The number of occasions when a chatbot-user actually introduces genuinely useful and novel information will be low, and the ability of chatbot companies to even detect that circumstance will be lower still. It isn’t enclosing valuable commons, it is squirting sealant around all the doors so the automated fart-huffing system and its audience can’t get any fresh air.

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            gerikson@awful.systems
            wrote on last edited by
            #15

            I also didn’t find the argument very persuasive.

            The LLM companies aren’t paying anythnig for content. Why should they stop scraping now?

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            • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

              Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

              Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

              Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

              If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

              The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

              Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

              (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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              flere-imsaho
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              #16

              just to note that reportedly the palantir employees are for whatever reason going through a massive “hans, are we the baddies” moment, almost a whole year into the second trump administration.

              as i wrote elsewhere, those people need to be subjected to actual social consequences of choosing to work with and for the u.s. concentration camp administration office.

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              • o7___o7@awful.systemsO o7___o7@awful.systems

                Clodswarms

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                istewart@awful.systems
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                #17

                I spent the last few years working in a prototype testing role on an active cattle ranch (don’t ask) and this phenomenon reminds me of what’s left on the ground after the herd moves through on their way up the canyon

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                • rook@awful.systemsR rook@awful.systems

                  I have mixed feelings about this one: The Enclosure feedback loop (or how LLMs sabotage existing programming practices by privatizing a public good).

                  The author is right that stack overflow has basically shrivelled up and died, and that llm vendors are trying to replace it with private sources of data they’ll never freely share with the rest of us, but I don’t think that chatbot dev sessions are in any way “high quality data”. The number of occasions when a chatbot-user actually introduces genuinely useful and novel information will be low, and the ability of chatbot companies to even detect that circumstance will be lower still. It isn’t enclosing valuable commons, it is squirting sealant around all the doors so the automated fart-huffing system and its audience can’t get any fresh air.

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                  istewart@awful.systems
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #18

                  I don’t think that chatbot dev sessions are in any way “high quality data”.

                  Yeah, Gas Town is being belabored to death, but it must be reiterated that I doubt the long-term value proposition of “Kubernetes fan fiction”

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                  • gerikson@awful.systemsG gerikson@awful.systems

                    I also didn’t find the argument very persuasive.

                    The LLM companies aren’t paying anythnig for content. Why should they stop scraping now?

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                    rook@awful.systems
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #19

                    Oh, they won’t. It’s just that they’ve already killed the golden goose, and no-one is breeding new ones, and they need an awful lot of gold still.

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                    • flere-imsahoM flere-imsaho

                      just to note that reportedly the palantir employees are for whatever reason going through a massive “hans, are we the baddies” moment, almost a whole year into the second trump administration.

                      as i wrote elsewhere, those people need to be subjected to actual social consequences of choosing to work with and for the u.s. concentration camp administration office.

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                      bigmuffn69@awful.systems
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #20

                      I have family working there, who told me during the holidays, “Current leadership makes me uncomfortable, but money is good”

                      Every impression I had of them completely shattered, cannot fathom that level out sell out exists in people I thought I knew.

                      As a bonus, their former partner was a former employee who became a whistleblower and has now gone full howard hughes

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                      • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                        Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                        Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                        Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                        If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                        The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                        Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                        (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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                        mirrorwitch@awful.systems
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #21

                        Cloudflare just announced in a blog post that they built:

                        a serverless, post-quantum Matrix homeserver.

                        it’s a vibe-coded pile of slop where most of the functions are placeholders like // TODO: check authorization.

                        Full thread: https://tech.lgbt/@JadedBlueEyes/115967791152135761

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                        • bigmuffn69@awful.systemsB bigmuffn69@awful.systems

                          I have family working there, who told me during the holidays, “Current leadership makes me uncomfortable, but money is good”

                          Every impression I had of them completely shattered, cannot fathom that level out sell out exists in people I thought I knew.

                          As a bonus, their former partner was a former employee who became a whistleblower and has now gone full howard hughes

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                          sansruse@awful.systems
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #22

                          anyone who can get a job at palantir can get an equivalent paying job at a company that’s at least measurably less evil. what a lazy copout

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                          • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                            Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                            Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                            Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                            If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                            The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                            Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                            (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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                            cinnasverses@awful.systems
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #23

                            A few people in LessWrong and Effectlve Altruism seem to want Yud to stick in the background while they get on with organizing his teachings into doctrine, dumping the awkward ones down the memory hole, and organizing a movement that can last when he goes to the Great Anime Convention in the Sky. In 2022 someone on the EA forum posted On Deference and Yudkowsky’s AI Risk Estimates (ie. “Yud has been bad at predictions in the past so we should be skeptical of his predictions today”)

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                            • B bluemonday1984@awful.systems

                              Want to wade into the snowy surf of the abyss? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid.

                              Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.

                              Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.

                              If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

                              The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

                              Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

                              (Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this. What a year, huh?)

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                              nightsky@awful.systems
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #24

                              The AI craze might end up killing graphics card makers:

                              Zotac SK’s message: “(this) current situation threatens the very existence of (add-in-board partners) AIBs and distributors.”

                              The current situation is so serious that it is worrisome for the future existence of graphics card manufacturers and distributors. They announced that memory supply will not be sufficient and that GPU supply will also be reduced.

                              Curiously, Zotac Korea has included lowly GeForce RTX 5060 SKUs in its short list of upcoming “staggering” price increases.

                              (Source)

                              I wonder if the AI companies realize how many people will be really pissed off at them when so many tech-related things become expensive or even unavailable, and everyone will know that it’s only because of useless AI data centers?

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                              • flere-imsahoM flere-imsaho

                                just to note that reportedly the palantir employees are for whatever reason going through a massive “hans, are we the baddies” moment, almost a whole year into the second trump administration.

                                as i wrote elsewhere, those people need to be subjected to actual social consequences of choosing to work with and for the u.s. concentration camp administration office.

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                                aninjury2all@awful.systems
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #25

                                On a semi-adjacent note I came across an attorney who helped to establish and run the Department of Homeland Security (under Bush AND Trump 1)

                                Who wants you to know he’s ENRAGED. And EMBARRASSED. How the American Schutzstaffel is doing Schutzstaffel things

                                He also wants you to know he’s Jewish (so am I, and I know our history enough that Homeland Security always had ‘Blood and Soil’ connotations you fucking shande)

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                                • nightsky@awful.systemsN nightsky@awful.systems

                                  The AI craze might end up killing graphics card makers:

                                  Zotac SK’s message: “(this) current situation threatens the very existence of (add-in-board partners) AIBs and distributors.”

                                  The current situation is so serious that it is worrisome for the future existence of graphics card manufacturers and distributors. They announced that memory supply will not be sufficient and that GPU supply will also be reduced.

                                  Curiously, Zotac Korea has included lowly GeForce RTX 5060 SKUs in its short list of upcoming “staggering” price increases.

                                  (Source)

                                  I wonder if the AI companies realize how many people will be really pissed off at them when so many tech-related things become expensive or even unavailable, and everyone will know that it’s only because of useless AI data centers?

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                                  istewart@awful.systems
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                                  #26

                                  I am confident that Altman in particular has a poor-to-nonexistent grasp of second-order effects.

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                                  • S sansruse@awful.systems

                                    anyone who can get a job at palantir can get an equivalent paying job at a company that’s at least measurably less evil. what a lazy copout

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                                    bigmuffn69@awful.systems
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #27

                                    On one hand as a poor grad student in the past, I could imagine working for a truly repugnant corp. but like if you’ve already made millions from your stock options, wtf are you doing. Idk, i really thought they’d have some shame over it, but they said shit like “our customers really like our deliverables” and i just fucking left with my wife

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                                    • flere-imsahoM flere-imsaho

                                      just to note that reportedly the palantir employees are for whatever reason going through a massive “hans, are we the baddies” moment, almost a whole year into the second trump administration.

                                      as i wrote elsewhere, those people need to be subjected to actual social consequences of choosing to work with and for the u.s. concentration camp administration office.

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                                      sc_griffith@awful.systems
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #28

                                      this happens like clockwork

                                      13 ex-Schutzstaffel employees condemn work as violating the SS code of conduct. "Don't let this be what the Totenkopf stands for."

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                                      • M mirrorwitch@awful.systems

                                        Cloudflare just announced in a blog post that they built:

                                        a serverless, post-quantum Matrix homeserver.

                                        it’s a vibe-coded pile of slop where most of the functions are placeholders like // TODO: check authorization.

                                        Full thread: https://tech.lgbt/@JadedBlueEyes/115967791152135761

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                                        antifuchs@awful.systems
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                                        #29

                                        And of all possible things to implement, they chose Matrix. lol and lmao.

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                                        • C cinnasverses@awful.systems

                                          A few people in LessWrong and Effectlve Altruism seem to want Yud to stick in the background while they get on with organizing his teachings into doctrine, dumping the awkward ones down the memory hole, and organizing a movement that can last when he goes to the Great Anime Convention in the Sky. In 2022 someone on the EA forum posted On Deference and Yudkowsky’s AI Risk Estimates (ie. “Yud has been bad at predictions in the past so we should be skeptical of his predictions today”)

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                                          architeuthis@awful.systems
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                                          A religion is just a cult that survived its founder – someone, at some point.

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